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Re: Stay on the fence... [Mr_Shiftright] by golic
Feb 28, 2009 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 27, 2009 12:56 pm)

Service is key. I am sure I paid about $300 more for the Pilot I leased last month. But, the SM was professional, shot straight, and when I made the appointment to come in - everything was ready and i was in and out of the dealership in less than 45 minutes.
 
And whatever extra I paid it was worth every penny.
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Agreeing {Mr_Shiftright} by wtd44
Mar 03, 2009 (9:32 pm)
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Advice to friends-- at their request-- and then thrown away... It just happens over and over. I suspect that many people "poll" their friends until they find one that agrees with their preconceived notions and then they tell themselves they've found good advice at last! And on the other hand, I know that my "very best advice" just doesn't work universally in the lives of all my friends-- but both of those guys should listen to me more!
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Re: Agreeing {Mr_Shiftright} [wtd44] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Mar 03, 2009 (9:49 pm)
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Replying to: wtd44 (Mar 03, 2009 9:32 pm)

I'm not sure if it was Mark Twain, but somebody like him said:
 
"If you want to develop a great reputation for wisdom, find out what it is people what to do and then advise them to do it".
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Re: Agreeing {Mr_Shiftright} [Mr_Shiftright] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 04, 2009 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 03, 2009 9:49 pm)

It's like Terry used to say in RWTIV..
 
It's the rule of 21s.. Keep asking 21 people, until someone tells you what you want to hear..
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trade in a car that has more owd than its worth by scammarn
Mar 27, 2009 (5:14 am)
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I have a vehicle that i owe five thousand more than its worth, due to last chance financing. Can i trade it in without starting upside down on a new loan, or am i stuck with paying this loan off?
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Re: trade in a car that has more owd than its worth [scammarn] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Mar 27, 2009 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: scammarn (Mar 27, 2009 5:14 am)

Well SOMEBODY has to pay the difference....you can trade it and the dealer will pay it off but he'll just blend the deficit into your new loan, making you more upside down.
 
Keep in mind that your trade in value will not be the same as "what it's worth" on the retail market, so you may end up being not $5K down, but $7-8K down on a trade in. That's pretty brutal.
 
I think you're stuck paying it off or paying it further down until you get at least reasonably even on it.
 
I guess if your credit is better now than it was when you first financed you might give a try re-financing your car loan. Long shot but possible.
 
My advice is to get some HARD DATA before you make any decisions. That means:
 
1. research the "book price" (trade in and private party retail) of your car at Edmunds True Market Value
 
http://www.edmunds.com/tmv/used/index.html
 
2. go to www.autotrader.com, and using "advanced search" find examples of your exact car, nationwide, and then when you get the long list of comparables, look at the bottom of the page for "average price". This will tell you how close TMV is to nationwide asking prices
 
3. Calculate your current pay-off balance.
 
With these numbers, you will at least know "the score" and what you're up against.
 
3.
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Re: trade in a car that has more owd than its worth [scammarn] by mikefm58
Mar 27, 2009 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: scammarn (Mar 27, 2009 5:14 am)

Can i trade it in without starting upside down on a new loan, or am i stuck with paying this loan off?
 
Maybe you can get one of those nice bailout packages from Obama.
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Re: trade in a car that has more owd than its worth [mikefm58] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Mar 27, 2009 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Mar 27, 2009 7:23 am)

yes but only if you are presently living in your car.
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Re: trade in a car that has more owd than its worth [scammarn] by wlbrown9
Mar 27, 2009 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: scammarn (Mar 27, 2009 5:14 am)

Just to add a little more to the good replies you have already gotten. Even if you pulled $5K out of your pocket and traded in on a new vehicle to start off just financing the purchase, you will be in the hole for probably the first 3 years with that one. The one new will depreciate immediately and be worth less than what you paid for it... and it will take you probably 3 years (assuming 5 year loan) to catch up with that depreciation. So, the only way you will get even is to pay off the $5K (whatever it actually is) negative equity on the current vehicle then put perhaps 20% down on the new one, example finance $16K on a vehicle you paid $20K after settling the negative equity.
 
Does not sound attractive, but once you get down in a hole like this, first step is to get back even, then try and get ahead. Not a quick way to handle this without parting with $8-10K of cash...you can handle over time and spread the cash out, but you won't be getting another vehicle for awhile. Sorry, but that is just the way it works out.
 
Bill
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Re: trade in a car that has more owd than its worth [scammarn] by isellhondas
Mar 30, 2009 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: scammarn (Mar 27, 2009 5:14 am)

Even with great credit it would be very difficult to roll that much negative equity into another car. The lender would be lending a lot more money than the car is worth.
 
If you used "last chance" financing I'm guessing your credit is still less than stellar so unless you have the ability to write a huge check to cover the deficit and a down payment, you are probably stuck.

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