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Re: Stay on the fence... [jipster] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Feb 27, 2009 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Feb 27, 2009 11:35 am)

I think the point of me using the term "honest deal" was not so much a dollar amount, but the way she would have been treated at this dealership, at the time of sale and beyond.
 
Basically, to my mind, she traded away prompt service, courtesy, lack of strong arm tactics, clean waiting rooms, a thorough new car prep and demonstration, and prompt and fair warranty correction in the future, etc. for a lousy $300.
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Re: Stay on the fence... [jipster] by verdugo
Feb 27, 2009 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Feb 27, 2009 11:21 am)

I meant unethical in that they quoted her a price that was too good to be true just to get her to come in.
 
I have no problem with them selling add ons.
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Re: Stay on the fence... [houdini1] by roadburner
Feb 27, 2009 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Feb 27, 2009 11:58 am)

My wife and I have a friend like that. She has asked me for investment advice a couple of times and then would always find fault or want to argue with whatever I said.
 
Geeze... Your friend sounds like my mother. I finally refused to give her advice at all...
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Re: Stay on the fence... [roadburner] by houdini1
Feb 28, 2009 (10:07 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Feb 27, 2009 3:30 pm)

LOL, well that is SOP for mothers !!
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Re: Stay on the fence... [Mr_Shiftright] by golic
Feb 28, 2009 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 27, 2009 12:56 pm)

Service is key. I am sure I paid about $300 more for the Pilot I leased last month. But, the SM was professional, shot straight, and when I made the appointment to come in - everything was ready and i was in and out of the dealership in less than 45 minutes.
 
And whatever extra I paid it was worth every penny.
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Agreeing {Mr_Shiftright} by wtd44
Mar 03, 2009 (9:32 pm)
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Advice to friends-- at their request-- and then thrown away... It just happens over and over. I suspect that many people "poll" their friends until they find one that agrees with their preconceived notions and then they tell themselves they've found good advice at last! And on the other hand, I know that my "very best advice" just doesn't work universally in the lives of all my friends-- but both of those guys should listen to me more!
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Re: Agreeing {Mr_Shiftright} [wtd44] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Mar 03, 2009 (9:49 pm)
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Replying to: wtd44 (Mar 03, 2009 9:32 pm)

I'm not sure if it was Mark Twain, but somebody like him said:
 
"If you want to develop a great reputation for wisdom, find out what it is people what to do and then advise them to do it".
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Re: Agreeing {Mr_Shiftright} [Mr_Shiftright] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 04, 2009 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 03, 2009 9:49 pm)

It's like Terry used to say in RWTIV..
 
It's the rule of 21s.. Keep asking 21 people, until someone tells you what you want to hear..
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trade in a car that has more owd than its worth by scammarn
Mar 27, 2009 (5:14 am)
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I have a vehicle that i owe five thousand more than its worth, due to last chance financing. Can i trade it in without starting upside down on a new loan, or am i stuck with paying this loan off?
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Re: trade in a car that has more owd than its worth [scammarn] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Mar 27, 2009 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: scammarn (Mar 27, 2009 5:14 am)

Well SOMEBODY has to pay the difference....you can trade it and the dealer will pay it off but he'll just blend the deficit into your new loan, making you more upside down.
 
Keep in mind that your trade in value will not be the same as "what it's worth" on the retail market, so you may end up being not $5K down, but $7-8K down on a trade in. That's pretty brutal.
 
I think you're stuck paying it off or paying it further down until you get at least reasonably even on it.
 
I guess if your credit is better now than it was when you first financed you might give a try re-financing your car loan. Long shot but possible.
 
My advice is to get some HARD DATA before you make any decisions. That means:
 
1. research the "book price" (trade in and private party retail) of your car at Edmunds True Market Value
 
http://www.edmunds.com/tmv/used/index.html
 
2. go to www.autotrader.com, and using "advanced search" find examples of your exact car, nationwide, and then when you get the long list of comparables, look at the bottom of the page for "average price". This will tell you how close TMV is to nationwide asking prices
 
3. Calculate your current pay-off balance.
 
With these numbers, you will at least know "the score" and what you're up against.
 
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