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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Feb 26, 2009 4:59 pm) So, she tries one or two other dealers that are more in her area, and she gets a quote that is literally *impossible*. So she doesn't go back to the dealer I recommended, then goes to the "great quote" only to be oversold on all this other stuff to make up for the impossible quote she got---in the end paying more. Ticked me off!
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 26, 2009 5:08 pm) Did they hold a gun to her head and make her buy all that over priced "stuff"? I'm sure we all know the most important word in negotiations.....No.....
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Feb 26, 2009 5:32 pm) I hear what you are saying but just because she is naive or gullible does not mean she deserves to be hoodwinked. You know how it goes, you're shopping for days, you're tired, you think you got a great deal, you get into the closer's office and they work you over on the ropes til you drop. Furthermore, the dealer who acted completely up front loses the sale. So shall we encourage him to be equally deceptive? It's a slippery slope, I know, and the woman is somewhat culpable, but still, I don't like seeing business done this way. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 26, 2009 5:36 pm) |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 26, 2009 5:08 pm) I hope you explained what happened to her and how much it cost her.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Feb 26, 2009 6:24 pm) It is a bit perverse, if you think about it, when someone calls YOU up, asks for your advice---and you give it in detail, set them all up---and they go do something else after all.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 26, 2009 5:08 pm) Would like to know the details on price under invoice and the add-ons your friend bought. If she got a "impossible" price on the car only, she probably still did pretty well overall... even with the add-ons. i.e If she bought an extended warranty, that would come in handy and is worthwhile. The pin-striping, fabric protection, wax protection and similar add-ons would indeed be fairly worthless. The Kia dealerships in my area, under one owner, advertise very good prices(* excludes dealer add-ons). You show up and they have this crappy alarm system dealer add-on (swipe a card through a sensor to allow car to start) that adds about $1,400 to the car. It is on every stinking car on their lot. Would be worthless to me, probably cost the dealership 200 or 300 bucks installed.
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Replying to: jipster (Feb 26, 2009 7:07 pm) The problem is I feel confident if she had refused any or all of the mop and glo addons, she wouldn't have gotten the car. I recall buying a digital camera 4 years ago. I knew exactly the one I wanted. It was available through all kinds of internet sales sites and even NY city store sites at very low prices. The prices were way below the market. The reports about the vendors when I googled them on the internet were that they won't sell it to you for the advertised price. After entering your order, you get a call that there are all these things you need to buy that add to the price. I believe things like batteries (which come in the box) and strap and ... They would add on extras that were required like lens cleaning cloths and sprays--all kinds of gimmicks. If you refused those, they didn't sell you the camera. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 26, 2009 6:47 pm) You know what, you did everything right. Don't be mad. Everyone did their job, your dealership gave her a great price, next time you tell them let them know "you can lead a fish to water..." The other dealership did their job as well, your friend should have known better. I know how you feel. I have been a cpa specializing in corporate and personal taxes for over 15 years. I have a masters, I give speeches, I teach other cpa's, I can't tell you how many times I get a "friend" calling for some free advice..I get them a detailed answer. Then a few weeks later I ask them how it went, only to find out they discarded my advice because "joe" at the rotary club/bowling alley/garage said he could do it another way. Hey, let it blow over and ask her to take you out for lunch in her new car...
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Replying to: golic (Feb 26, 2009 8:26 pm) So after arranging all that and setting these mechanisms in motion, and "calling in a favor", to have it all tossed away by the friend is quite discouraging. I had a similar thing last year. With tires. I set up for someone to go to an *excellent* tire place, that gives great service, free tire repairs, courtesy car, clean shop and waiting room, good prices, telephone follow ups, superb alignment equipment, the best balancing machines.... And what does the person do? Stiffs them, and goes to Costco to save $19 a tire on an older Porsche. AND then have to get it aligned elsewhere. AND badly as it turns out. Smack me on the head, why don't you? To bring this all back to the topic at hand----don't just shop price, you have to shop SERVICE as well. Good service is translatable into dollars. |
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