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#21 of 40 Tarted Up Saab by jchan2 Feb 18, 2005 (5:58 pm)
sounds better than Tarted Up Malibu at least.
#22 of 40 tarted up Alfa by phoenexius Feb 24, 2005 (8:10 am)
We all want AWD... Note that the new Alfa 159 is on the Epsilon platform and will be getting Q4 AWD at some point in the future. Oh yeah the Alfa comes with a 3.2 V6 rated at 260 hp too.   http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/news,view.spy?artid=36632&pg=- 1 or http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/Geneva_Motor_Show/0,7427,1369-- 1782_1666421,00.html "The 159 offers an evolved permanent four-wheel drive system with three differentials."   And Saab needs to incorporate the AWD as well in order to compete with the S40/V50 on home turf... As the Caddy will be built in Trollhattan, that will set up the manufacturing site with AWD for the Saabs.   sounds like a pretty good formula for the Caddy to me.   Only thing is, how do they price the thing versus the Alfa? I would choose the Alfa styling over the Caddy.   s
#23 of 40 by wale_bate1 Feb 24, 2005 (9:19 am)
I think even a blind naked mole rat would choose Alfa styling over Caddy, but I digress...
#24 of 40 Alfa by merc1 Feb 24, 2005 (9:27 pm)
Yeah an Alfa-Romeo is lusty car even their sedans. Now Alfa is one brand that needs to come back to the U.S.   M
#25 of 40 by wale_bate1 Feb 25, 2005 (10:13 am)
Oy!   I think they've got to wait at least one more generation. I've still got a bad taste in my mouth from saying "Alfa" in the early 90's, and I didn't even own one.   Historically, though, yes, it'd be nice. The current styling is certainly more appealing than much of what's available here and now.   Support and service. That's just plain got to be ironed out well in advance, with a huge PR campaign before the cars ever even get shown here.   Too emotional?
#26 of 40 Wale_bate1 by merc1 Feb 25, 2005 (2:44 pm)
Nope, that is a spot on view of Alfa. Lusty but a pain in arse to own. They must fix that before even attempting to come here again.   You're right about their styling too. I can imagine how good their current lineup would look on our roads. Makes other cars, even some other European ones look like toasters.   M
#27 of 40 Hmmm..... back to the BTS by chris65amg Feb 26, 2005 (4:11 pm)
GM doesn't get it, apparently. In Europe (or at least in Ireland) the view of Caddy is that it's a big old car for old Texan guys who ran into some money. However, my uncle was drunk when he said that.... but I digress.   The point is that Caddy doesn't have much of a chance because it isn't what people want. The styling is a thin veil, and I don't think that the platform will impress too many. As a matter of fact, I think that it's silly that GM didn't root through their Australian subsidy or Subaru and make a Legacy knockoff.... ew, forget I said that. But a 9-3 platform "Epsilon" (silly name) doesn't sound too hot. Isn't that the one that's shared with the Chevy Malibu and Pontiac GTO? If Caddy want's to be a standard, this isn't the way to go.   Alfas. Did you see that concept that they had at that one auto show last year? Lusty lusty lusty. The scantily clad lady on the hood didn't hurt, of course. If Alfa exported to the U.S, that would be awesome. Even my mom would buy one, And she's a little old lady.
#28 of 40 BTS unveiling in Geneva by sportssedanman Feb 28, 2005 (7:43 pm)
can everybody say "Cimmaron" ? Not the move they needed and the best evidence that GM - and all of Detroit - just doesn't get it. Leave the CTS as the enty level Caddy, price-wise it competes with the 3-Series, TL, G35. Replies to this message: aldw (Feb 28, 2005 11:12 pm) sportssedanman (Mar 01, 2005 6:12 pm)
#29 of 40 Re: BTS unveiling in Geneva [sportssedanman] by aldw Feb 28, 2005 (11:12 pm)
Replying to: sportssedanman (Feb 28, 2005 7:43 pm) How is this a Cimmaron? Qualitatively it is as good as any car in its class. And how does Caddy not 'get it'? Prestige is not static by any means, otherwise the crappy reputations of the imports of the 1960s would have stayed. Just what is it that you think a Caddy should be anyhow? Replies to this message: sportssedanman (Mar 01, 2005 6:12 pm)
#30 of 40 by wale_bate1 Mar 01, 2005 (10:27 am)
CTS competes on price, but it's more a G35 and TL cross shop, and less a 3-series cross shop still. With the intro of the next, larger 3, that may change.   Anywho, a smaller Caddy would be welcomed be folks like me who see the CTS as too big and more along the lines of the 5-series for size and dynamics, but not this one.   A3 Sportback and 1-series look like the future of compact sport-lux from where I'm sitting.

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