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A quote from R&T Feb 05: "Cadillac is mulling a small BMW 3-series fighter based on an AWD version of the Epsilon chassis used for the Saab9-3. For lack of a better name we call it the BTS, since it would compete in the B-C class of small cars. And we up the ante by challenging Cadillac to build a V version, which would be a nice entry-level vehicle for the States." Gets right to vehicle sizing in that I have often read in the Hall comments about the CTS being a 3-series competitor, which it really is not save on price point; further that even dumb-as-a-bag-of-hammers GM (well, there's some hot spark at Caddy anyway) realizes the market for small performance/lux vehicles is an expanding one. It's not just a price-point game, but there is growing demand for smaller, more exciting to drive near-lux offerings. Could it be that Caddy is on the verge of finally offering a car I'd like? Heavens! BTW, the pics, even with the Art & Science "heritage" actually look pretty good. A step forward from CTS, IMO.
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Replying to: wale_bate1 (Feb 04, 2005 10:18 am) It could be that GM is looking to modify the Epsilon platform as the Kappa can not make an easy transfer to 4 seater. Whatever. Just do it! |
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"My preference would be to have the B Cadillac built on the rwd Kappa platform with an AWD option." That is the only way they should do it. I keep thinking about that small concept car that Holden built on the Kappa platform, a real stunner. M |
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RWD would be the preference, but frankly any mfr thinking very sport, some lux and small as in compact, all in the same package, has my full attention. The more options out there, the better, IMO
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Replying to: wale_bate1 (Feb 07, 2005 10:56 am) I like options.. but, I can't see going GM, with the current styling and reliability issues.. |
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Well, that's a lot of elements in one question, kyfdx! I'm no Art & Science fan, but as they've progressed with it, it's begun to soften a bit (STS, DTS), and it's coming into a more reasonable place, IMO. The pic in R&T looked OK to me. Hard to get wiggy over one pic of something that doesn't really exist, but it looked like it had potential. On reliability, I really can't see that buying Caddy is that much different from buying Audi (which I will likely do next go round) or BMW (which could be a contender as well) or even the vaunted Lexus (which I have now and which has in fact seen the inside of the repair bay just like any other car). Where GM is likely to lose me, should they actually make such a beastie, is on the inside and at the dealership. GM interiors, Caddy included, are still second rate, IMO. I don't like the choice of materials or components, the ergonomics (usually) suck, IMO, and the execution is still Chevy+. The dealerships are generally a small step up from, say, a Dodge shop. If they could sell it through Saturn shops, I'd be a whole lot more satisfied I should think. Have to give them credit at Caddy: they are many leagues from where they were just five or ten years ago, but they still have some ground to make up. Interest in a smaller sport lux package, however, to me represents not only another chance to get it right, but also another competitive option to keep the others on their toes and hopefully offering quality in that market segment. So yeah, I can get kinda jazzed about the prospect! 
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go this way.. jrct9454, "BMW 1-Series - 2005" #391, 9 Feb 2005 10:06 am
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Replying to: kyfdx (Feb 09, 2005 8:59 am) http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/sixcms/media.php/76/einsertour- _450.jpg That's the wagon, not the hatch. The hatch is too stubby, and I don't think it's going to fly, even though the config seems just right otherwise. I could be very, very wrong though...
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Replying to: wale_bate1 (Feb 09, 2005 9:23 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Feb 09, 2005 9:44 am) I was really thinking Motor Und Sport was a cut above Autospies!
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