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#8131 of 8137 Re: sorento diesel hybrid [dworthen] by alltorque Nov 09, 2009 (7:36 am)
Replying to: dworthen (Nov 09, 2009 6:35 am) No info on the Sorrento diesel hybrid, I'm afraid. Yes, the EU does, indeed, rate CO2 output on km driven : gm/km as previously stated.   Here's some comparisons :   My '06 Volvo S60 D5 : 199 gm/km (that's a 2.4 Turbodiesel 185bhp)   VW Polo 1.4 TDi Bluemotion ; 99   Smart ForTwo 0.8D : 88   Toyota Yaris 1.4 D-4D : 109   Toyota Prius 1.5 gasser hybrid : 104   Ford Fiesta 1.6 TDCi : 110   Ford Focus 2.0 TDCi (136bhp) : 144   Audi A3 2.0 TDi 170bhp : 148   Audi Q7 3.0 TDi : 260   BMW 335D : 177 (282bhp)   BMW 330i gasser : 173 (268bhp)   BMW 120D : 128   Jaguar XF 3.0D : 179   Lexus IS 220D : 148   Vauxhall/Opel Astra 1.9 CDTi : 149   Cadillac CTS 3.6 gasser : 264   Corvette ZO6 : 350 (not exactly a surprise !)   MINI Cooper 1.6D : 109   Rolls Royce Phantom : 377 not bad considering..............   So, 119gm/km for a small diesel hybrid is just not that exciting.
#8132 of 8137 Emissions Comparison by 104wb Nov 09, 2009 (9:22 am)
Standard Year NOx PM pre-reg 1974 2.25 1.0 CA Tier1 2003 0.37278 0.049704 Euro4 2005 0.25 0.025 Euro5 2008 0.2 0.005 CA ULEV 2003 0.18639 0.024852 Japan 2005 2005 0.14 0.013 Tier2Bin8 2006 0.125 0.0125 Japan'09&Euro6 2009 0.08 0.005 Tier2Bin5 2008 0.043491 0.006213   I'm sorry, I couldn't get this to format at all. The comparison is NOx and PM in grams per mile. These are the only two of the regulated emissions where diesels are not superior to gasoline engines (HC, CO, etc. are already better for the diesel). Tier2Bin5 is federal, but corresponds to one of the CA levels, basically 'price of entry' into the CA market, and the 'me too' states. Any of these recent regs are a order of magnitude improvement from where we were in the '70s. The differences between recent Euro, Japan, US regs are peanuts compared to where we came from (plot them out x-y, include the pre-regulation values, and the need for US regs to differ from Europe's looks very silly). Japan wisely commonizes with Euro regs; Japan '09 and Euro 6. Our Tier2Bin5 is still more strict on NOx than Euro6 (comes out in 2012?), so: no diesels for you! Replies to this message: 104wb (Nov 09, 2009 9:32 am)
#8133 of 8137 Re: Emissions Comparison [104wb] by 104wb Nov 09, 2009 (9:32 am)
Replying to: 104wb (Nov 09, 2009 9:22 am) grams per kilometer, not grams per mile...
#8134 of 8137 ... BMW, to Introduce Strong Four Cylinder Diesel by roland3 Nov 11, 2009 (8:37 pm)
... The engine is expected to be seen by many people as a replacement for a six cylinder Diesel. Go to: http://autoblog.com
#8135 of 8137 Diesel Sedans by moparbad Nov 13, 2009 (6:21 pm)
Diesel Sedans BMW 335d and VolkswagenJetta TDI WSJ
#8136 of 8137 20th birthday of TDI at Audi by moparbad Nov 20, 2009 (8:52 am)
20th B-Day of TDI Audi   Already 20 years of TDI, wow!
#8137 of 8137 A funny thing about hybrids by winter2 Nov 24, 2009 (8:05 am)
A few weeks ago, I met a person who works for Ford Motor Company (FoMoCo). This person is in a position to know where FoMoCo is going with their vehicles and I was told that hybrids are just a temporary fix. FoMoCo is working to embrace hydrogen power as well as diesel power in the future.

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