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Re: Beware of bad sides of new diesel technolgy [agrawal]
by mark_c
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Oct 18, 2009 (2:41 am)
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Replying to: agrawal (Oct 14, 2009 12:53 pm)
Since it was never started, why couldn't the fuel be siphoned out, tank refilled with 10 liters (arbitrary #) of diesel to mix with what ever is left, then that siphoned out and then the tank filled up with fresh diesel? Would that remove most all of the gasoline left in the tank? Guess it depends how the tank is shaped and where the siphon hose could reach (which is best to remove the tank to tip it up and drain it out).
I see your point though, putting gas in a diesel is a mistake I expect happens a lot and so it shouldn't be this involved and expensive to correct. I would expect MB to have designed the fuel tank so gasoline could be easily removed when it does happen. Perhaps some kind of drain at the lowest part of the fuel tank to make it easy to remove all of the fuel without having to remove the fuel tank.
Think of it this way, you saved a ton of money by not starting the car
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Re: Beware of bad sides of new diesel technolgy [agrawal]
by houdini1
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Oct 18, 2009 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: agrawal (Oct 14, 2009 12:53 pm)
Back in the 80's I used to mix a gallon or so of gasoline with a full tank of diesel to keep the waxing and freezing down in the winter. This was a Mercedes 240 D and never had any ill effects. Maybe the new diesels are more finicky?
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- #8110 of 8147
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Re: Beware of bad sides of new diesel technolgy [houdini1]
by agrawal
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Oct 19, 2009 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 18, 2009 8:59 am)
Just got the car back from shop after a week. They took the both sending unit out, wiped the tank, flushed the fuel lines. Does all these work needed with new technology is a question. MB would not comment. sure should not cost $724 shop bill, full tank of fuel, and towing.
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Most Underappreciated
by moparbad
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Oct 19, 2009 (8:46 pm)
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most underappreciated new cars
1. Volkswagen Jetta TDI. Better than a Prius in every way except fuel mileage by a tiny amount, and its lower price still gives it the overall cost advantage for decades.
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Re: Most Underappreciated [moparbad]
by john1701a
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Oct 19, 2009 (10:54 pm)
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Replying to: moparbad (Oct 19, 2009 8:46 pm)
10 MPG is a "tiny" amount?
To think that Jetta TDI doesn't make the next emission level requirement Tier-III (in 2011) and Prius makes it by a wide margin, already.
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Re: Most Underappreciated [john1701a]
by gagrice
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Oct 20, 2009 (4:53 am)
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Replying to: john1701a (Oct 19, 2009 10:54 pm)
To think that Jetta TDI doesn't make the next emission level requirement Tier-III (in 2011) and Prius makes it by a wide margin, already.
The Prius is still far from as clean as CARB is proposing. They want nothing less than ZEV. Even a PHEV Prius will not be close to that. It is all a game of diminishing returns. So enjoy what you consider to be a reasonable vehicle while you can.
10 MPG in the city is nothing to give up for a much finer handling vehicle with higher quality interior and exterior design and materials. Plus Toyota needs to address their runaway acceleration issues before they kill a lot more people.
Make mine diesel!
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Re: Most Underappreciated [gagrice]
by john1701a
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Oct 20, 2009 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 20, 2009 4:53 am)
Don't try to change focus. MPG was overall. Emissions were countrywide.
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Re: Most Underappreciated [john1701a]
by gagrice
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Oct 20, 2009 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: john1701a (Oct 20, 2009 6:27 am)
Not sure how cognizant you are with US emissions politics. CA sets the standards for the rest of the Country. As should be obvious by EPA changes aligned with CARB and Supreme Court decisions concerning GHG. As far as mileage. A Jetta TDI will match a Prius in highway mileage any day of the week. And probably surpass at realistic highway speeds especially in the colder months. The Jetta TDI currently holds the records for long haul touring.
Get back to us when Prius goes 9500+ miles around the USA covering every one of the 48 states at better than 67.9 MPG. Flat land mileage records are meaningless.
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Re: Most Underappreciated [gagrice]
by larsb
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Oct 20, 2009 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 20, 2009 7:36 am)
Get back to "me" when a TDI can go 110 MPG+ on a tank.
Your post again points out the fact that "no one car is perfect for EVERY situation" and again it promotes the need for a "diesel electric hybrid car" which would give the BEST of BOTH worlds.
Are you listening, VW? Audi? MB?
We want/need a commercially viable diesel/electric 5-passenger hybrid sedan.
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Re: Most Underappreciated [larsb]
by gagrice
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Oct 20, 2009 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 20, 2009 7:46 am)
You want a diesel/hybrid. I want less complexity not more. I can get 99 MPG with my Sequoia going down hill. That Prius 110 MPG was a bogus test. With a PHEV. Which is not sold anywhere in the World. There are dozens of diesel vehicles sold all over the world that will kick tail on the Prius for mileage. Until another company comes up to the plate with a long distance record, the Jetta TDI holds it. One tank records are suspect at best. Pointing out the Prius being better in stop and go LA traffic is not valid for most US drivers.
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