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Re: Dirty dirty dirty.... [ruking1] by ruking1
Jul 15, 2009 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 14, 2009 3:22 pm)

Here is some Fed.gov mis information to add to the .... misinformation Gasoline Sulfur Rule Questions and Answers
 
It is amazing the link is titled in "plain" English.
 
So importers and refiners can actually use "CREDITS" to "satisfy the INTENT of a 90 ppm to 30 ppm gasoline sulfur "compliance". So how many consumers really "KNOW" what their particular bought gasoline REALLY IS !!?? (aka, is it INDEED 90 ppm ? and ONLY "credited" down to 30 ppm !!??
 
The 90 ppm (credited" to 30 ppm is telling as compared to the ULSD of 15 to 5 ppm. The RANGE of allowed sulfur ppm is GREATER than what ULSD is mandated to BE !!?? So again the "reality" makes gasoline up to 18 x dirtier (90 ppm/5) than ULSD !!!???
 
For all the vilification D2 has received, hardly anyone has questioned the higher sulfur ppm of unleaded gasoline !!??
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Diesel Pickup by avalon02wh
Jul 15, 2009 (1:00 pm)
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"Indian diesel pickup truck to go on sale in U.S. later this year"
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2009/07/68494450/1
 
What, no comment on the new diesel pickup! Somebody is falling down on the job. I know it is not a VW Jetta TDI, but is likely to be a bit more groundbreaking.
 
Mahindra, those folks make tractors......I wonder, will John Deere or Case be next with a diesel pickup??? Ya know, it sort of makes sense...buy all your farm vehicles under one roof.
 
I also find it odd that they don't seem to be worried about meeting the emissions requirements.
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Re: Diesel Pickup [avalon02wh] by ruking1
Jul 15, 2009 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 15, 2009 1:00 pm)

..."What, no comment on the new diesel pickup! Somebody is falling down on the job. I know it is not a VW Jetta TDI, but is likely to be a bit more groundbreaking."...
 
We were waitng for someone like... U... to to finally step up and admit the 50 state legal gig is (a bunch of hoey) (wizard of oz) , especially when an "upstart" Indian "third" world manufacturer can EASILY comply with the standards !!??... My guess is urea also !!?? It would be a SMASH LOW $20,000's or so and with 36 mpg (real world) !! I understand in passing , 150 or so hp and 300# ft of torque !!?? Clean em and fry em, ah huh !!! This might be Gagrice's cup of tea.
 
By the picture, it is ugly enough to catch on !! ...But if they sell 60,000 of these the first year???...
 
Or more PC: its distinctive styling cues are sure to garner a loyal market following !!! With 36 (2016 35.5 mpg standard) , simply smashing! (In my best British accent)
 
They might totally surprise folks by bringing even faster product and quality improvements than certainly the Japanese; of late, even the South Koreans !!
 
Now a real sleeper would be a Cummins turbo diesel, 6 spd manual (tremec 6066) in a... Buick...... 35-45 mpg !!?? Yes Sir ree !!
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Re: Diesel Pickup [avalon02wh] by gagrice
Jul 15, 2009 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 15, 2009 1:00 pm)

We did discuss the new Mahindra 6 days ago. I am surprised you missed it. I think I would like it. I have emailed the company for a test drive when they have them available in San Diego. They have a rugged look missing in the foo foo trucks sold in the USA today.
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef579bb/7788#MSG7788
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Re: Diesel Pickup [ruking1] by avalon02wh
Jul 15, 2009 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 15, 2009 1:15 pm)

You are slowing down, it took you 15 minutes to respond.
 
I'm not sure they are "third" world anymore. The proof will be in the execution of the product.
 
Trying to sell 60,000 in North America might be a stretch. I would consider them a success if the sell 1,000 a month.
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Re: Diesel Pickup [avalon02wh] by gagrice
Jul 15, 2009 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 15, 2009 5:39 pm)

60k seems mighty optimistic to me also. They have 300+ dealers. The warranty is better than any of the competition. It is also smaller which is a market that has been neglected. It has higher ratings for hauling than any of the midsize PU trucks.
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Re: Diesel Pickup [avalon02wh] by ruking1
Jul 15, 2009 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 15, 2009 5:39 pm)

It would be hard to break any ground selling at 1k per month. But then again,... I bought an SUV in 1987 which had app 2000 total (importation) for that year !
 
Just the Jetta TDI model is selling 40% in June 09 3,372 units. Arguably the (small) PU truck market is far broader and deeper. So 60,000 units would be 5,000 units per month (purely a swag on my part, I have NO inside information) .
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Re: Diesel Pickup [gagrice] by houdini1
Jul 15, 2009 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 2:47 pm)

I think you guys must be losing it. We first talked about this truck back on May 30th starting with post # 7675 !!!
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Re: Diesel Pickup [houdini1] by ruking1
Jul 16, 2009 (6:12 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jul 15, 2009 6:34 pm)

It might be the on/off, etc. again nature of what has and will continue to happen that might be the driver here. Almost every time I goggle on the diesel subject I can see 1,2.3.4. year old references to diesel models coming to the US market.
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Too late for inclusion.... by ruking1
Jul 16, 2009 (8:17 am)
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Here is an example (with an education twist) of what I mean. This is a Jan 2008 Popular Mechanics article The Case for Diesel: Clean, Efficient, Fast Cars (Hybrids Beware!)
The dark horse of fossil fuels has cleaned up its act, allowing automakers to create cars for the U.S. that are ultraefficient and high-performance. Here comes the 75-mpg revolution.

 
Notice how many of the "diesel" models years and oems (67%) did NOT make the anticipated MY roll out.
 
 

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