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Replying to: jimlockey (Jul 13, 2009 3:47 pm) I guess one of the bosses has spoken. 
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NOT coming to the US market Mazda6 Diesel Sports Hatch
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 13, 2009 4:52 pm) I would guess the diesel would top the gasser in just about every instance they are offered. Could be why in the EU diesel cars are now at 70% of new car sales. You can see why the Feds want to keep US in the dark when it comes to diesel vehicles. I thought the writer had a good handle on the cars we are sold from Japan. You'd never mistake the Mazda6 for anything other than a Japanese car. That said, of all the Oriental midsizers it's the one that most closely resembles its competition from the Continent... And not just because it's available with an excellent turbodiesel drivetrain. Where its archrival, the Honda Accord Euro, has a dash that's all buttons and knobs (in the best tradition of Japanese household appliances) and Toyota's Camry presents a swathe of metalised plastic, the 6 has a considerably more resolved interior. The dash itself is simple rendered and there's been remarkable restraint used in the design of the controls and combating the proliferation of lights and buzzers. |
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article in Wired - Buy a diesel (or hybrid) and save The Volkswagen Jetta TDI (pictured) took the trophy with a five year cost savings of $6,210 over the gas-burning Jetta and an MSRP premium difference of $2,070. Now, tell us something we don't already know.
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Replying to: moparbad (Jul 14, 2009 5:01 am)  
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Replying to: moparbad (Jul 14, 2009 5:01 am) 2009 Jetta, 24 mpg, RUG  $ 2.83 = .1179 cents (per mile driven) 2009 Jetta, 24 mpg, PUG $ 3.03 = .1263 cents 2009 Jetta TDI (I get 42.5 mpg), D2 $ 2.71=.06376 cents (per mile driven) RUG = 85% more than D2 (per mile driven) PUG = 98% more than D2 Burning 76% more is MUCH better for the environment!!?? Now if you had (i.e.,) a like model Prius DIESEL hybrid, in theory it would be the analogous (similar/the same) !! |
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While ULSD ( 15 ppm to 5 ppm) is vilified for so called being "dirty" DIESEL, look what it is for CA regular unleaded GAS ((aka, RUG) ..."The State of California recognized the benefit of reducing sulfur in gasoline on the emission control of existing vehicles and the need for low sulfur fuel to optimize the performance of new vehicles designed to meet the stringent LEV Program Standards. As a result, California, in establishing its Phase 2 reformulated gasoline requirements, set an averaging unit of 30 ppm and acap of 80 ppm sulfur in gasoline."... The so called CLEAN RUG to PUG 30 ppm to 80 ppm) is 2 x's, up to 16 x's dirtier than ULSD (15 ppm to 5 ppm . !!!! link title Boy were we mis informed !!! As previously posted, the use of GDI will require a max of 30 ppm (unleaded gas) and lower to keep emissions control equipment damage to a minimum. This of course would dramatically increase the capital investments for both equipment AND cost per gal of RUG to PUG !!! It is looking like in the preliminary research the GDI (major benefit is better fuel mileage) a DPF LIKE system for gassers . It will probably be the similar cost !!!! 
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 14, 2009 3:22 pm) It is amazing the link is titled in "plain" English. So importers and refiners can actually use "CREDITS" to "satisfy the INTENT of a 90 ppm to 30 ppm gasoline sulfur "compliance". So how many consumers really "KNOW" what their particular bought gasoline REALLY IS !!?? (aka, is it INDEED 90 ppm ? and ONLY "credited" down to 30 ppm !!?? The 90 ppm (credited" to 30 ppm is telling as compared to the ULSD of 15 to 5 ppm. The RANGE of allowed sulfur ppm is GREATER than what ULSD is mandated to BE !!?? So again the "reality" makes gasoline up to 18 x dirtier (90 ppm/5) than ULSD !!!??? For all the vilification D2 has received, hardly anyone has questioned the higher sulfur ppm of unleaded gasoline !!?? |
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"Indian diesel pickup truck to go on sale in U.S. later this year" http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2009/07/68494450/1 What, no comment on the new diesel pickup! Somebody is falling down on the job. I know it is not a VW Jetta TDI, but is likely to be a bit more groundbreaking. Mahindra, those folks make tractors......I wonder, will John Deere or Case be next with a diesel pickup??? Ya know, it sort of makes sense...buy all your farm vehicles under one roof. I also find it odd that they don't seem to be worried about meeting the emissions requirements.
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