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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 09, 2009 8:14 pm) I think this is the new review by PUTrucks.com. The author raises some good points about the comparison to VW TDI, but the biggest risk is the quality of the first couple thousands that arrive. |
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-quotes below from Bob Lutz on GM General Motors Co. might revive the Chevrolet Caprice name as a way to save the outgoing Pontiac G8 sedan, and will not consider diesel cars for the United States until the business case improves. Lutz also said that the company had shelved any plans for diesel-engined passenger vehicles in the United States due to the extra cost he estimated at $6,000 for emissions controls, despite a 20% boost in fuel economy. “Several Europeans and both Toyota and Honda have canceled their U.S. passenger car diesel plans, as have we,” Lutz wrote. -end Don't like what the message even if it is exactly what I expected. I was very enthusiastic about the 4.5L Duramax that was to be manufactured in Towanda, NY and available no later than 2010 MY trucks. Darn shame that this project was placed on the shelf for lack of funds. Hope it is resurrected. |
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Lutz has no other choice. GM's union agreement says no diesel cars can be imported into the US.
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In Germantown, MD at the "W Express" (no relation to last idiot president). Diesel #2: 2.339 E85: 2.359 RUG: 2.459 Everything else past 2.609. |
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Replying to: jimlockey (Jul 13, 2009 3:47 pm) I guess one of the bosses has spoken. 
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NOT coming to the US market Mazda6 Diesel Sports Hatch
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 13, 2009 4:52 pm) I would guess the diesel would top the gasser in just about every instance they are offered. Could be why in the EU diesel cars are now at 70% of new car sales. You can see why the Feds want to keep US in the dark when it comes to diesel vehicles. I thought the writer had a good handle on the cars we are sold from Japan. You'd never mistake the Mazda6 for anything other than a Japanese car. That said, of all the Oriental midsizers it's the one that most closely resembles its competition from the Continent... And not just because it's available with an excellent turbodiesel drivetrain. Where its archrival, the Honda Accord Euro, has a dash that's all buttons and knobs (in the best tradition of Japanese household appliances) and Toyota's Camry presents a swathe of metalised plastic, the 6 has a considerably more resolved interior. The dash itself is simple rendered and there's been remarkable restraint used in the design of the controls and combating the proliferation of lights and buzzers. |
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article in Wired - Buy a diesel (or hybrid) and save The Volkswagen Jetta TDI (pictured) took the trophy with a five year cost savings of $6,210 over the gas-burning Jetta and an MSRP premium difference of $2,070. Now, tell us something we don't already know.
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Replying to: moparbad (Jul 14, 2009 5:01 am)  
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Replying to: moparbad (Jul 14, 2009 5:01 am) 2009 Jetta, 24 mpg, RUG  $ 2.83 = .1179 cents (per mile driven) 2009 Jetta, 24 mpg, PUG $ 3.03 = .1263 cents 2009 Jetta TDI (I get 42.5 mpg), D2 $ 2.71=.06376 cents (per mile driven) RUG = 85% more than D2 (per mile driven) PUG = 98% more than D2 Burning 76% more is MUCH better for the environment!!?? Now if you had (i.e.,) a like model Prius DIESEL hybrid, in theory it would be the analogous (similar/the same) !! |
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