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Re: 20,000 ppm sulfur...BOY were we misinformed... [ruking1] by coontie66
Jul 07, 2009 (4:11 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 06, 2009 3:58 pm)

Here is a "heads UP" for you. When environmentalists (EPA) are without facts and knowledge they substitute the word MAY.
 
I have seen it for years. Sometimes they use COULD.
 
If you ever go to a public meeting ask the semi-knowledgeable one for the FACTS and Scientifically collected data with statistical analysis they usually can't produce it or a citation to it. Their citations usually are back to someone that SAID it before.
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Re: 20,000 ppm sulfur...BOY were we misinformed... [coontie66] by ruking1
Jul 07, 2009 (4:58 am)
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Replying to: coontie66 (Jul 07, 2009 4:11 am)

And here is one for you. Essentially the odds are it will NOT happen because most of these folks are anywhere from no way I'd buy a diesel to outright anti diesel and not anti RUG to PUG, even as diesel is 20-40% more efficient and RUG to PUG (30 ppm) is 2 x to 6 times "dirtier" than diesel. (15-5 ppm).
 
It almost never fails to amaze me that while RUG to PUG is FULLY 98% of the passenger vehicle fleet, the assumption is modern diesels are "dirtier" than RUG to PUG vehicles.
 
Burning (20-40%) more is better than burning less (and at higher cost per mile) !!!
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Re: When will the US get an SUV/CUV with a 4 Cyl diesel? [gagrice] by larsb
Jul 08, 2009 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 03, 2009 7:40 pm)

Gary says, "I don't think you will get a 2010 Prius for that price. "
 
Au Contraire.....I eyeballed a 2010 Prius stickered for $23,559 at Riverview Toyota in Phoenix. I asked the salesman if that was the true price, no markup, and he said Yep.
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Re: When will the US get an SUV/CUV with a 4 Cyl diesel? [larsb] by houdini1
Jul 08, 2009 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 08, 2009 7:54 am)

That is the absolute base car base price with zero options and I doubt if it includes the destination fee. I have my doubts that such a car exists. So I think Gary is probably right.
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Re: When will the US get an SUV/CUV with a 4 Cyl diesel? [houdini1] by larsb
Jul 08, 2009 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jul 08, 2009 2:20 pm)

I do not post fantasy on this forum.
 
Was not completely base, no, it was not. The bottom line sticker price, after everything, was $23,559.
 
Gary can be right all he wants, but I sat in this car and talked to the salesman about it while I was waiting for my TCH to get the 45K service.
 
Qty 14 2010 Priuses in Phoenix for sale under $24K
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Re: When will the US get an SUV/CUV with a 4 Cyl diesel? [larsb] by gagrice
Jul 08, 2009 (3:27 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 08, 2009 2:33 pm)

They must be overcharging as the base Prius 2 is supposed to sell for $22,750. Was the Prius you looked at a 2, 3, 4 or 5 level? You want a real good hybrid. Buy the Fusion Hybrid from Ford.
 
Not sure your point? You could sell a Prius for $10k and it still would be lacking in all the important areas. Handling, Braking and safety. So you have a reliable brick that gets decent mileage while holding up traffic.
 
PS
Your link does not work
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Diesel sales by ruking1
Jul 08, 2009 (4:28 pm)
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Diesel TDI model grabs 81% of VW Jetta Sportwagen sales in June
by Sam Abuelsamid on Jul 1st 2009 at 6:39PM
 
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Re: 20,000 ppm sulfur...BOY were we misinformed... [ruking1] by roland3
Jul 09, 2009 (1:20 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 06, 2009 3:58 pm)

... R, does GDI stand for "gasoline direct injection" ???
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Re: 20,000 ppm sulfur...BOY were we misinformed... [roland3] by ruking1
Jul 09, 2009 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: roland3 (Jul 09, 2009 1:20 am)

That was my read also.
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Re: When will the US get an SUV/CUV with a 4 Cyl diesel? [gagrice] by larsb
Jul 09, 2009 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 08, 2009 3:27 pm)

My only point was to say that there ARE Priuses to be had for $24K, after you said they did not exist.
 
That's all.

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