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Re: When will the US get an SUV/CUV with a 4 Cyl diesel? [john1701a] by winter2
Jul 03, 2009 (8:23 pm)
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Replying to: john1701a (Jul 03, 2009 10:51 am)

Still has the same problem, burns gasoline, a one way fuel. Still dumps more unburned HC and CO into the air than a diesel. Have yet to see a Prius that runs on 100% biofuel making it totally or nearly carbon neutral.
 
You can still only use E10 in a Prius. I have run up to B40 in my Jeep Liberty CRD without any loss in FE. I know of several Jeep Liberty CRDs that run on B100 without any modification and no loss in FE or performance.
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Magnaflow by waltergt67
Jul 03, 2009 (9:48 pm)
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I have the magnaflow too and love it, they are cheaper on ebay but I wanted a warranty(the salt on the roads here in winter kills an exhaust) so I got it here. magnaflow 16901, or you can try one of the vendors here, they are allways runnign sales/specials. either way its a great system and very easy to install.
 
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Would the USA like to save 547.5 M barrels of oil per year?? by ruking1
Jul 05, 2009 (8:29 am)
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Evidently NOT !!!
 
..."the Environmental Protection Agency statistic that if one-third of Americans drove vehicles that run on "clean diesel," the U.S. could save 1.5 million barrels of oil a day, roughly the amount imported daily from Saudi Arabia. "...
 
..."Environmentalists have long battled against diesel. But between the low-sulfur diesel the U.S. pumps today and pollution traps that companies like Audi and Mercedes employ on the cars, the exhaust is cleaner than from most regular gas-fed engines."...
 
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Since the EPA probably has access to more of the unofficial and OFFICIAL data, I would change my take to 33.33% passenger diesel fleets !! (from app 23% )
 
Simultaneously if diesel engines were OPTIMIZED to burn B 5 to B 100 with on going naturall andindustrial waste bio diesel processing/reprocessing combine with the potentially HIGHLY efficient bio diesel from ALGAE (actually CARBON NEUTRAL) that would permanently remove imported oil DEMAND from the grid.....
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Re: 20,000 ppm sulfur...BOY were we misinformed... [ruking1] by roland3
Jul 05, 2009 (6:11 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 03, 2009 8:49 am)

... Volume, HAAA, CARB and EPA were BUILT ignoring volume. If they would reward lower volume (in cars and trucks) with a slight allowance in the NOx specs it might end the RECESSION with one sweep. AND, the citizens of the USA could have a good selection of Diesel vehicles, instead of the least selection on Earth. Not to mention the liquid plague of SCR-urea they will be bringing down upon us.
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Re: 20,000 ppm sulfur...BOY were we misinformed... [roland3] by ruking1
Jul 06, 2009 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: roland3 (Jul 05, 2009 6:11 pm)

Here is a GASOLINE soot scandal that is virtually IGNORED !!!
 
..."But somehow there is no discussion of the PM (soot) emissions from GDI engines??? "...
 
"Under transient conditions GDi engines produce about as much soot as a modern diesel engine, and hence to reach PM regulatory limits, a particulate filter may be required. "
 
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Re: 20,000 ppm sulfur...BOY were we misinformed... [ruking1] by coontie66
Jul 07, 2009 (4:11 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 06, 2009 3:58 pm)

Here is a "heads UP" for you. When environmentalists (EPA) are without facts and knowledge they substitute the word MAY.
 
I have seen it for years. Sometimes they use COULD.
 
If you ever go to a public meeting ask the semi-knowledgeable one for the FACTS and Scientifically collected data with statistical analysis they usually can't produce it or a citation to it. Their citations usually are back to someone that SAID it before.
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Re: 20,000 ppm sulfur...BOY were we misinformed... [coontie66] by ruking1
Jul 07, 2009 (4:58 am)
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Replying to: coontie66 (Jul 07, 2009 4:11 am)

And here is one for you. Essentially the odds are it will NOT happen because most of these folks are anywhere from no way I'd buy a diesel to outright anti diesel and not anti RUG to PUG, even as diesel is 20-40% more efficient and RUG to PUG (30 ppm) is 2 x to 6 times "dirtier" than diesel. (15-5 ppm).
 
It almost never fails to amaze me that while RUG to PUG is FULLY 98% of the passenger vehicle fleet, the assumption is modern diesels are "dirtier" than RUG to PUG vehicles.
 
Burning (20-40%) more is better than burning less (and at higher cost per mile) !!!
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Re: When will the US get an SUV/CUV with a 4 Cyl diesel? [gagrice] by larsb
Jul 08, 2009 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 03, 2009 7:40 pm)

Gary says, "I don't think you will get a 2010 Prius for that price. "
 
Au Contraire.....I eyeballed a 2010 Prius stickered for $23,559 at Riverview Toyota in Phoenix. I asked the salesman if that was the true price, no markup, and he said Yep.
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Re: When will the US get an SUV/CUV with a 4 Cyl diesel? [larsb] by houdini1
Jul 08, 2009 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 08, 2009 7:54 am)

That is the absolute base car base price with zero options and I doubt if it includes the destination fee. I have my doubts that such a car exists. So I think Gary is probably right.
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Re: When will the US get an SUV/CUV with a 4 Cyl diesel? [houdini1] by larsb
Jul 08, 2009 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jul 08, 2009 2:20 pm)

I do not post fantasy on this forum.
 
Was not completely base, no, it was not. The bottom line sticker price, after everything, was $23,559.
 
Gary can be right all he wants, but I sat in this car and talked to the salesman about it while I was waiting for my TCH to get the 45K service.
 
Qty 14 2010 Priuses in Phoenix for sale under $24K

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