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Audi, pardner by larsb
Jun 12, 2009 (12:20 pm)
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Some good, some bad
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Re: This would be a welcome choice [alltorque] by ruking1
Jun 12, 2009 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: alltorque (Jun 12, 2009 12:11 pm)

I'd be totally ok with a 30 year old vehicle with a proper "new diesel". Nothing wrong with 30-35 mpg !!!!
 
We just put a 15 year old TLC (gasser) through a major maintenance ! 170,000 miles. For sure it "should have" this and that... BUT... all systems A OK. The last MANDATORY but alledgedly randomly drawn "SMOG ONLY" tested essentially NEW. They tore into the valve cover to check the valve adjustment, still factory specifications (a valve adjust would net them a couple hundred dollars more) Perhaps at the 30 year mark we will be looking at 340,000 miles. .
 
So despite what most all claim, vehicles can be built to last 30 years....
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Re: This would be a welcome choice [ruking1] by larsb
Jun 12, 2009 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 12, 2009 12:29 pm)

VERY few "daily driver" cars make it to 30 years. And those that do suffer multiple thousands of dollars in repair work along that way.
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Re: This would be a welcome choice [larsb] by ruking1
Jun 12, 2009 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jun 12, 2009 1:12 pm)

Well that is the flip side to what I am saying.
 
And of course you aren't saying that you never have to replace rotors, brake pads, tires, etc?
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Some DIS advantages by ruking1
Jun 13, 2009 (4:59 am)
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Fender-benders in microcars can be costly
By Ken Thomas
 
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Diesel Audi Q7 TDI by avalon02wh
Jun 13, 2009 (5:40 am)
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I see James Healey did a piece on the Diesel Audi Q7 TDI
 
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/healey/2009-06-11-test-drive-audi-q7- -tdi_N.htm
 
He recorded "15.7 mpg (6.37 gallons per 100 miles) in easy-going suburban driving." The vehicle is rated 17/25 mpg. It sounds like the Q7 will struggle to make its EPA ratings.
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Re: Diesel Audi Q7 TDI [avalon02wh] by ruking1
Jun 13, 2009 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 13, 2009 5:40 am)

..."Diesels can get 25% to 40% better mileage than similar-size gas engines."...
 
The Toyota Prius had issues meeting its EPA ratings. At the time I was considering the 04 Prius, the EPA was 50 highway 60 city. Again at the time Edmunds.com Prius mpg threads were indicating 45 MAX (more like 43 in the city. minus - 28% from the stated city EPA ) from a lot of very dissapointed folks. In all fairness I did not and still do not count myself amoung that population.
 
It was all the more interesting, since Toyota did the submissions. Needless to say it (those self submissions) became not only politically embarrasing, but the EPA took the unusual action to re"cook" the tests so the Toyota Prius could get closer to the "cooked" ratings they didn't and should not have cooked. Incidently they still have issues meeting their OWN published numbers.....
 
Makes you wonder with the above quote how much better a diesel powered (anything) Prius hybrid will do.
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Re: This would be a welcome choice [larsb] by ruking1
Jun 13, 2009 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jun 12, 2009 1:12 pm)

..."And those that do suffer multiple thousands of dollars in repair work along that way. "....
 
I think also the above "sweeping" generalization might hide the fact that most is generated on the newly place unneeded and unreliable (usually electronic...) stuff.
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Re: Diesel Audi Q7 TDI [avalon02wh] by gagrice
Jun 13, 2009 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 13, 2009 5:40 am)

Let's hope the Q7 owners do better than that. They have some very tough competition in the class. The only owner posting on the GL320 CDI so far is getting a combined 26.7 MPG. I talked to a lady at the Shell station the other day with the GL320 CDI and she is in love with the vehicle. Says it is so much better than the Denali she traded in. I asked what kind of mileage and she did not know. It just went twice as long on a tank of fuel than the Denali. And it handles like a car rather than a truck.
 
The Q7 is just not attractive at all to me so I am not sure I would even test drive one. I would rather have the 2010 Audi Allroad Quattro with the 2.0L TDI used in the Jetta. So far no talk of them coming to our 3rd world nation. Soon to be the land of $4000 Tata Nano and Fiat's
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Re: Diesel Audi Q7 TDI [ruking1] by avalon02wh
Jun 14, 2009 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 13, 2009 5:54 am)

I thought this was a diesel forum? Why did you bring up the Prius? And just for the record, if you check Toyota Prius MPG-Real World Numbers you will see that 45 mpg is certainly not the MAX.
 
Over the years I have noticed that there is often a lot of cherry picking when it comes to how great mpg is with diesels. If you don't like the EPA ratings you call them "cooked". Of course if a journalist or forum member should happen to get "great MPG" in an uncontrolled test, well that must be right....
 

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