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If Land Rover brings their Defender line to the USA they would move to the top of my list. As far as I can tell the 2010 newly designed Defender's only come with a 2.4 L diesel engine. I like the looks. They are about $20k less than a comparable Toyota Land Cruiser. That is only offered with diesel engines in the UK. Now that a progressive company owns Land Rover maybe will see some good choices. I look for Tata to end up with the whole Chrysler dealer network. 
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 12, 2009 5:54 am)  Still very cool for what is basically a 60 year old body design. Still very much respected in their homeland and lots of old ones still roaming about. Used to be that they could be fixed by anyone with a screwdriver, hammer and a set of spanners. Fender bender ? Unbolt the offending panel, attack it with a soft mallet, (or even a lump of 4" x 2"), and bolt it back on. Sorted. I imagine the body construction hasn't changed and is still the same aluminium it always was, (long before everyone else "invented" alum for car bodies). |
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Replying to: alltorque (Jun 12, 2009 12:11 pm) We just put a 15 year old TLC (gasser) through a major maintenance ! 170,000 miles. For sure it "should have" this and that... BUT... all systems A OK. The last MANDATORY but alledgedly randomly drawn "SMOG ONLY" tested essentially  NEW. They tore into the valve cover to check the valve adjustment, still factory specifications (a valve adjust would net them a couple hundred dollars more) Perhaps at the 30 year mark we will be looking at 340,000 miles. . So despite what most all claim, vehicles can be built to last 30 years....
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 12, 2009 12:29 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jun 12, 2009 1:12 pm)  And of course you aren't saying that you never have to replace rotors, brake pads, tires, etc? |
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Fender-benders in microcars can be costly By Ken Thomas link title |
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I see James Healey did a piece on the Diesel Audi Q7 TDI http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/healey/2009-06-11-test-drive-audi-q7- -tdi_N.htm He recorded "15.7 mpg (6.37 gallons per 100 miles) in easy-going suburban driving." The vehicle is rated 17/25 mpg. It sounds like the Q7 will struggle to make its EPA ratings.
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 13, 2009 5:40 am) The Toyota Prius had issues meeting its EPA ratings. At the time I was considering the 04 Prius, the EPA was 50 highway 60 city. Again at the time Edmunds.com Prius mpg threads were indicating 45 MAX (more like 43 in the city. minus - 28% from the stated city EPA ) from a lot of very dissapointed folks. In all fairness I did not and still do not count myself amoung that population. It was all the more interesting, since Toyota did the submissions. Needless to say it (those self submissions) became not only politically embarrasing, but the EPA took the unusual action to re"cook" the tests so the Toyota Prius could get closer to the "cooked" ratings they didn't and should not have cooked. Incidently they still have issues meeting their OWN published numbers..... Makes you wonder with the above quote how much better a diesel powered (anything) Prius hybrid will do.
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Replying to: larsb (Jun 12, 2009 1:12 pm) I think also the above "sweeping" generalization might hide the fact that most is generated on the newly place unneeded and unreliable (usually electronic...) stuff. |
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