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Replying to: alltorque (Jun 11, 2009 12:57 am) Perhaps you could comment on the European FIAT products, being as how it seems a slam dunk for FIAT to buy Chrysler. Since before the announcements, I have speculated that in the shorter term, Fiat would make ready for the US market "off the shelf" Fiat products (2-5 years). It seemed a perfect opportunity to introduce FIAT diesels. How they plan to do a 0 to 60 launch for the existing Chrysler line is a complete mystery (1 to 5 years). link title Longer term, there will be some re engineering and rebadging of Chrysler products to FIAT and vice versa. I am sure there will be some new Fiat/Chrysler concept to market offerings. Ultimately they will put the FIAT imprimatur, with possible Chrysler cues. What the linked article mysteriously did not address is how long it actually took the current FIAT CEO to turn around FIAT.... Perhaps it is just my lack of perception, knowledge, etc. but I am hard pressed to see what MB did to Chrysler during MB's ownership. There is ONE example however: the Dodge SPRINTER turbo diesel. It has the MB turbo diesel engine mated to MB's almost bullet proof automatic transmission. I have heard folks getting 25 mpg !!!!! Some OCI's have crazy good UOA numbers with 50,000 miles !!!!!! But outside of highly specialized markets and/or the occasional "enthusiast," an almost NON event. However, it would seem that Chrysler had a hugely corrosive effect on MB. MB seems STILL in recovery phase from that past ordeal. It is noteworthy that MB has remained COMPLETELY silent about the FIAT purchase of Chrysler. It is a further curiosity in that no one from the news media has even seem to even ask MB for their take...... A further speculation; a few of their diesel products could find their way here, as well as the new Cummins turbo diesel "small block" for the Dodge RAM 1500 series, which presumably could be adapted to the mid to large car products. |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 10, 2009 5:55 pm) |
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Golf GTD No GTD, just TDI for 2010.
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Replying to: moparbad (Jun 11, 2009 1:58 pm) |
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If Land Rover brings their Defender line to the USA they would move to the top of my list. As far as I can tell the 2010 newly designed Defender's only come with a 2.4 L diesel engine. I like the looks. They are about $20k less than a comparable Toyota Land Cruiser. That is only offered with diesel engines in the UK. Now that a progressive company owns Land Rover maybe will see some good choices. I look for Tata to end up with the whole Chrysler dealer network. 
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 12, 2009 5:54 am)  Still very cool for what is basically a 60 year old body design. Still very much respected in their homeland and lots of old ones still roaming about. Used to be that they could be fixed by anyone with a screwdriver, hammer and a set of spanners. Fender bender ? Unbolt the offending panel, attack it with a soft mallet, (or even a lump of 4" x 2"), and bolt it back on. Sorted. I imagine the body construction hasn't changed and is still the same aluminium it always was, (long before everyone else "invented" alum for car bodies). |
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Replying to: alltorque (Jun 12, 2009 12:11 pm) We just put a 15 year old TLC (gasser) through a major maintenance ! 170,000 miles. For sure it "should have" this and that... BUT... all systems A OK. The last MANDATORY but alledgedly randomly drawn "SMOG ONLY" tested essentially  NEW. They tore into the valve cover to check the valve adjustment, still factory specifications (a valve adjust would net them a couple hundred dollars more) Perhaps at the 30 year mark we will be looking at 340,000 miles. . So despite what most all claim, vehicles can be built to last 30 years....
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 12, 2009 12:29 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jun 12, 2009 1:12 pm)  And of course you aren't saying that you never have to replace rotors, brake pads, tires, etc? |
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