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Re: Diesel haters are clueless [john1701a] by mike91326
Jun 07, 2009 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: john1701a (Jun 07, 2009 12:02 pm)

John,
 
Which model did you get and were you able to get a price below MSRP? Also, what do you think of the 2010?
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Re: Diesel haters are clueless [mike91326] by kcram HOST
Jun 07, 2009 (7:13 pm)
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Replying to: mike91326 (Jun 07, 2009 5:50 pm)

This is not a Prius/hybrid discussion. There is the entire Toyota Prius Board for that.
 
Diesels here, please.
 
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2009 Jetta TDI Fun To Drive by moparbad
Jun 09, 2009 (10:26 am)
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Fun to drive according to this review
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Jetta TDI Businessweek by moparbad
Jun 09, 2009 (8:31 pm)
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Jetta TDI is getting a lot of news coverage
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Re: Jetta TDI Businessweek [moparbad] by ruking1
Jun 09, 2009 (9:41 pm)
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Replying to: moparbad (Jun 09, 2009 8:31 pm)

The diesel goal was stated 25% of production. The actual seems to be 30%. I have read in other press releases the 2010 goals are at 40% of production.
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Diesels on the Cusp? by ruking1
Jun 10, 2009 (5:55 pm)
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..."Volkswagen is also considering bringing its minicar, the Polo, to the U.S. The company claims that the BlueMotion diesel version will deliver more than 60 mpg, highway and city combined—while also managing 99 g/km of CO2, an important European measurement. The gasoline version turns in 43 mpg on the same test cycle. Analysts predict that the Polo could land stateside in 2010."...
 
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Suddenly it is starting to make sense to the US market that more (up wards of 23% for my .02 cents) diesels (volume and percentage) makes a LOT of sense.
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Re: Diesels on the Cusp? [ruking1] by alltorque
Jun 11, 2009 (12:57 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 10, 2009 5:55 pm)

The VW Polo is a fine little device. We don't see too many around my neck of the woods but we do see lots & lots of the Skoda Fabia which is based on the same mechanicals but with a slightly larger body, in 4 or so different styles, (not trim levels - styles). (They are Hatch, Estate, Roomster and Yeti which is available as a 4x4 with the 2.0TDi 170bhp engine), at a lower retail price, better dealers and, arguably, better build quality than its VW parent. Then there is the SEAT variant of the Polo. At least as good and cheaper.
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Re: Diesels on the Cusp? [alltorque] by ruking1
Jun 11, 2009 (6:16 am)
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Replying to: alltorque (Jun 11, 2009 12:57 am)

To date, no Skoda Fabia, SEAT products (gasser or diesel) has/have hit the US market.
 
Perhaps you could comment on the European FIAT products, being as how it seems a slam dunk for FIAT to buy Chrysler. Since before the announcements, I have speculated that in the shorter term, Fiat would make ready for the US market "off the shelf" Fiat products (2-5 years). It seemed a perfect opportunity to introduce FIAT diesels. How they plan to do a 0 to 60 launch for the existing Chrysler line is a complete mystery (1 to 5 years). link title Longer term, there will be some re engineering and rebadging of Chrysler products to FIAT and vice versa. I am sure there will be some new Fiat/Chrysler concept to market offerings. Ultimately they will put the FIAT imprimatur, with possible Chrysler cues. What the linked article mysteriously did not address is how long it actually took the current FIAT CEO to turn around FIAT....
 
Perhaps it is just my lack of perception, knowledge, etc. but I am hard pressed to see what MB did to Chrysler during MB's ownership.
 
There is ONE example however: the Dodge SPRINTER turbo diesel. It has the MB turbo diesel engine mated to MB's almost bullet proof automatic transmission. I have heard folks getting 25 mpg !!!!! Some OCI's have crazy good UOA numbers with 50,000 miles !!!!!! But outside of highly specialized markets and/or the occasional "enthusiast," an almost NON event.
 
However, it would seem that Chrysler had a hugely corrosive effect on MB. MB seems STILL in recovery phase from that past ordeal.
 
It is noteworthy that MB has remained COMPLETELY silent about the FIAT purchase of Chrysler. It is a further curiosity in that no one from the news media has even seem to even ask MB for their take......
 
A further speculation; a few of their diesel products could find their way here, as well as the new Cummins turbo diesel "small block" for the Dodge RAM 1500 series, which presumably could be adapted to the mid to large car products.
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Re: Diesels on the Cusp? [ruking1] by houdini1
Jun 11, 2009 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 10, 2009 5:55 pm)

The next model year is supposed to get around 75 mpg hway and 50 around town. The main change is automatic start/stop at idle. This should be the first one we get. Keep your fingers crossed.

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