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Re: If they can fly a jet plane with it, why not a diesel [gagrice] by gagrice
Jan 13, 2009 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 13, 2009 4:43 pm)

Looking deeper into Sapphire Energy it looks like a familiar name is a prime investor. Bill Gates dumped his stock in Corn Ethanol and went into Biodiesel. I could have told him to do that several years ago. Rockefeller money is also involved.
 
For Mr. Gates, the investment in Sapphire marks a shift in his clean-fuel strategy and perhaps a sign of a broader interest in alternative energy. An early investor in Pacific Ethanol Inc., Cascade sold its stake earlier this year, according to market data from Thomson Financial.
 
Could another well-known ethanol investor be far behind? Vinod Khosla, a Silicon Valley billionaire whose personal investment vehicle has backed numerous ethanol-related companies, is scheduled to give the keynote address next month at the Algae Biomass Summit. This has led to speculation that he might be looking at algae for investment opportunities.

 
http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2008/09/17/bill-gates-goes-for-algae-i- nvests-in-biofuel-maker-sapphire-energy/
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Re: If they can fly a jet plane with it, why not a diesel [gagrice] by jkinzel
Jan 14, 2009 (10:36 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 13, 2009 4:50 pm)

Looks like Bill got out before things went down, Khosla might be a little late.
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Re: ... CARB, EPA, Pilot, TA: it's 2009 [roland3] by roland3
Jan 15, 2009 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: roland3 (Jan 11, 2009 6:34 pm)

... Appears the lurkers are accepting UREA as inevitable. It IS a rolling juggernaut; however SOMEBODY in CARB or the governor's office ought to be able to stop it. BTW, Pilot and TA there is no law that says you have to sell the fluid.
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Diesel Sniffers unite and beware !!! by larsb
Jan 15, 2009 (7:24 am)
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Diesel fuel prices are killing the Diesel Revolution before it can get started..
 
As it stands, with today's gas vs. diesel prices at the pump, these particular hybrids have a clear economy advantage over even the very frugal Volkswagen Jetta TDI. But - and this is a big but - do we all really expect the national average for regular gasoline (according to the Energy Information Administration) to remain at $1.78 (figure as of 1/12/09)? Wild fluctuations like we saw last summer could quickly diminish the amazingly low cents-per-mile figure of the gas/electric hybrids. Then again, if gas goes up, diesel will likely go even higher, so maybe my point is moot. Yet again, worldwide industry, expansion, and building, all of which rely on diesel fuel for industrial machinery, are down significantly, perhaps narrowing and ultimately eliminating diesel's premium over gasoline. Could the worldwide recession result in diesel prices at the pump coming down to, say, the level of premium gasoline or less? Ye economists at large, let me know if I'm dreaming or making sense.
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Re: ... CARB, EPA, Pilot, TA: it's 2009 [roland3] by ruking1
Jan 15, 2009 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: roland3 (Jan 15, 2009 6:59 am)

I would swag a guess as to the real answers are at the political level. The real "rubber meets the road" answers are what actually is being incorporated into the IRS tax code. The closest "US 2" (us and the USA) get to getting a mere glimpse, for example is the IRS Code Section 30 B (baker), , VW Jetta TDI (being one of a sub set-aka) 1300 tax credit, aka Advanced Lean Burn Technology Motor Vehicle Tax Credit, available on the first 60,000 vehicles ... Most folks are almost asleep just by the above bill board advertising !!!!
 
etc etc.... yada yada....(27 results found on http:// www.irs.gov/)
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Re: Diesel Sniffers unite and beware !!! [larsb] by ruking1
Jan 15, 2009 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 15, 2009 7:24 am)

Indeed the pickle is getting consumers to use MORE fuel (decrease prices) and to get the "business" side to produce more. So if you drop the prices for consumers the hope is consumers use MORE. What is frightening to those policy makers are the consumers are using less and will continue that course. This is like DAH ...as the whole strategy all along has been to scare folks to death !! ??
 
Policy makers also would want to raise the (taxation) cost of diesel to business (consumers also) . ' Business' respond by cutting costs and laying off of people re two no brainer responses. This further puts the policy makers behind an even BIGGER pickle because they would really like to enact an exponentially higher tax rate (AKA HUGE) fuel tax aka $1.00 per gal.
 
Indeed the government has long made more money than oil companies and now when everything is going south- wants to make EVEN MORE !!!!! This would probably have the effect of even lowering the now scary recessionary type scenario, inching it closer to the D word... DEPRESSION.
 
The sad part about it is NO ONE in the media is tracking all this supposedly better clean air due to decreased consumption. They are prattling on about global warming during the GREATEST cold snap in literally decades.
 
My take is for those folks SO enamored of 9 dollar per gal fuel, either move to Europe or contribute the make up amount to the IRS. Neither will say thank you, as the Europeans hate Americans and the US, and the IRS does not have a thank you letter legislated by Congress: but then you would have achieved the result for yourself.
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Re: Diesel Sniffers unite and beware !!! [larsb] by houdini1
Jan 15, 2009 (11:53 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 15, 2009 7:24 am)

It would seem that solar power would be big in your area so maybe you know a lot about it.
 
I have a question for you that I have never understood. I see acres and acres of solar panels passively collecting sunlight and storing the energy in batteries. As a practical matter you can take a very simple plastic magnifying glass, focus the sunlight, burn a hole in a piece of wood in a matter of seconds, start a fire, or accomplish many other feats requiring heat.
 
With the above in mind it would seem that sunlight could be focused to heat water to produce steam (like the nuclear plants work) and be much more efficient.
 
This may sound dumb, but what am I missing here?
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Re: Diesel Sniffers unite and beware !!! [houdini1] by ruking1
Jan 15, 2009 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 15, 2009 11:53 am)

No you are not missing anything. Indeed there are so called new technologies (1980's) that do EXACTLY that !! They use a parabolic (or some such propriatary shape) that magnifies, focuses and AMPLIES collected rays onto a cylinder filled with synthetic oil media, thus heating it and the heated liquid is used (ultimately) to push a turbine. I read about this about some solar panel farm in the Mojave Desert.
 
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Re: Diesel Sniffers unite and beware !!! [houdini1] by roland3
Jan 15, 2009 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 15, 2009 11:53 am)

... the solar array in the Mojave near Edwards Air Force Base stores heat in an oil/medium and then can make steam 24 hours a day. The steady supply of energy is a major consideration in the future of solar.
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Re: Diesel Sniffers unite and beware !!! [larsb] by gagrice
Jan 15, 2009 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 15, 2009 7:24 am)

I passed a Chevron today that is selling RUG for $2.07 and diesel for $2.19. The window of opportunity for getting a good deal on a diesel vehicle may be closing. I think the economy is killing all vehicle purchases. Local Toyota dealer had 106 Prius on the lot last week.

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