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Re: Will CARB & EPA bankrupt the trucking industry? [gagrice] by ruking1
Dec 28, 2008 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 28, 2008 8:14 am)

Well it seems that the new order is to domicile So CA American trucks in Mexico and continue to use the higher sulfur diesel at lower prices !!!
 
My other take is the one reason the diesel beetle is from banned to limited is because it precisely does what the CARB & EPA says it should do. They really do not want the better results, they just want a Hollywood type illusionary passion play: opiate the masses principle.
 
So in a pervese way the realities metric out to: 29 mpg is better than 50 mpg. Higher C02 emissions is BETTER than lower C02 emissions. From ZERO to 15 ppm sulfur D2 fuel is worse than RUG to PUG 30 ppm. We want it sleezy, at much higher cost, taxation, consumption and emissions !!! Don't forget the more global realities, higher year over year consumption,MORE dependence on foreign oil, especially those hostile to the USA
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Re: Will CARB & EPA bankrupt the trucking industry? [gagrice] by roland3
Dec 28, 2008 (4:44 pm)
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... There is a saving grace for CARB. They actually put an arrow in the dragon. Seems as they are St George wannabees trying to recover from helping to implement MTBE. Yes, they are now part of the evolutionary process and or events that will make the internal combustion engine become extinct. This may be a good thing. With cheap oil the ancient propulsion instrument might be around for awhile longer.
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... Next major embarrassment for CARB (after a few hundred million down the drain) the UREA systems will be obsolete before the last truckstop has them installed. That is if Homeland Security does not wake-up first and STOP all those potential point of purchase locations for ammonia. BTW, there is no law that says these truckstops have to sell UREA. Pilot and TA say they will, Flying J went Chapter 11 yesterday.
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Re: Will CARB & EPA bankrupt the trucking industry? [roland3] by cdnpinhead
Dec 28, 2008 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: roland3 (Dec 28, 2008 4:44 pm)

. . .Flying J went Chapter 11 yesterday.
 
Sad.
 
When I drove, Bingo, Husky & Union 76 were my stops of choice, depending on fuel pricing, convenience &/or food/lodging. They're all gone now, but Flying J filled in for a few of my favorites.
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Re: Will CARB & EPA bankrupt the trucking industry? [gagrice] by winter2
Dec 28, 2008 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 28, 2008 8:14 am)

As we know, government for the people and by the people is a myth. Government for a few people and by a few people is the reality. EPA has had it's hands tied by big oil and Congressman John Dingell for years. CARB is like any other governmental agency. They screw up but will not admit that they screw up and continue down the path of ignorance and of stupidity that we all know.
 
As to diesel fuel, especially the domestic stuff, it is rotten swill. It is dirty and the cetane rating is barely 42 or 43. I am changing the fuel filter on my Jeep Liberty CRD every 10K to 12K miles instead of the called for 24K miles. The filter comes out black, coal black after 10 to 12K miles. I must add additives and cetane improver to make sure my CRD will start in the colder weather and run properly.
 
As to any form of D2, EPA decided to convert all forms of D2 usage over in steps instead of all at once. That means the trains can still use high sulfur garbage. Look at home #2 heating oil at 5000 ppm of sulfur. ULSD for home heating oil will not be available for another few years. Tell me this is not nuts. I use oil to heat my home and the sulfur laden ash in the heat ex changer really makes a mess. And the Mexican fuel and some of the U.S. drivers who use it, all delightful.
 
As to the issue of PM (particulate matter) found in diesel exhaust, there are some nasty compounds found in PM called PAH, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons. PAH are carcinogenic and caused by the incomplete combustion of aromatic compounds found on fossil fuel. Removal of aromatic compounds in diesel fuel will reduce the amount of PAH and also reduce the amount of PM.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycyclic_aromatic_hydrocarbon#Occurrence_and_poll- ution
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Re: Will CARB & EPA bankrupt the trucking industry? [cdnpinhead] by winter2
Dec 28, 2008 (6:25 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Dec 28, 2008 5:35 pm)

Pilot and TA are still alive and well.
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Re: Will CARB & EPA bankrupt the trucking industry? [winter2] by gagrice
Dec 28, 2008 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: winter2 (Dec 28, 2008 6:15 pm)

EPA has had it's hands tied by big oil and Congressman John Dingell for years. CARB is like any other governmental agency.
 
It is no secret that the oil companies have preferred to sell gasoline to the masses for over 100 years. Diesel is the premier product produced from oil. It provides all our major transportation and freight hauling needs. Gas is still the nasty by product. It should be obvious that we are running a surplus of gas with the big price difference. That is unfortunate for the few discriminating drivers such as yourself that are using diesel. I am surprised you do not have a high grade of ULSD available. What state are you in? I was very happy with BP/ARCO ULSD in my two diesel vehicles. I do anticipate owning another diesel in the next year.
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Re: Will CARB & EPA bankrupt the trucking industry? [gagrice] by kcram HOST
Dec 28, 2008 (8:04 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 28, 2008 8:14 am)

The new CARB mandate also includes language that includes trucks and buses that are registered in other states... in essence requiring any truck or bus that enters California to be "2010 legal". The obvious problem with this is, a vehicle is only required to meet the standards in effect in its (model) year of manufacture. You can be sure there will be plenty of lawsuits that will test the legality of retroactive enforcement such as this.
 
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Re: Will CARB & EPA bankrupt the trucking industry? [kcram] by ruking1
Dec 28, 2008 (8:08 pm)
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Replying to: kcram (Dec 28, 2008 8:04 pm)

Let the games begin !!
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Re: Will CARB & EPA bankrupt the trucking industry? [kcram] by gagrice
Dec 28, 2008 (8:27 pm)
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Replying to: kcram (Dec 28, 2008 8:04 pm)

It looks to me like CARB has killed the new truck market in CA. If nothing will be legal but 2010 or later technology, is it even available today? CARB has never been able to enforce out of state emissions in the past. The state is bankrupt from all the foolish programs they have tried to push. I wonder how they plan to enforce inspection on every out of state truck. Not to mention the 1000s of trucks coming up from Mexico loaded with everything from Avocados to Suburbans. CA and their goofy emissions police will be a paper tiger.
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Re: Will CARB & EPA bankrupt the trucking industry? [gagrice] by roland3
Dec 29, 2008 (12:51 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 28, 2008 8:27 pm)

... There is really only one way to save California from vehicle emissions. Strong incentives for EV and battery development. Not turning the vehicle industry into (any further) a bureaucratic, mechanical, and financial nightmare. A voluntary, (with incentives), *exchange*, particulate filter, program might help in the interim.

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