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Beginning January 1, 2011, the Statewide Truck and Bus rule will require truck owners to install diesel exhaust filters on their rigs, with nearly all vehicles upgraded by 2014. Owners must also replace engines older than the 2010 model year according to a staggered implementation schedule that extends from 2012 to 2022. I talked to my nephew yesterday at our annual family get together. Last Summer he was in bad shape as his biggest customer filed for bankruptcy under the load of $5 diesel. Now his business is booming again. He has several full time heavy diesel mechanics working in his shop. Most trucking companies are spending money to keep the old trucks running as long as possible. They are not optimistic about the upcoming regulations. The only chance they have at survival is the fact that most drivers are still Union. They are busy lobbying CA State legislators to pressure CARB on upcoming regulations. According to my nephew the regs are totally unrealistic and will send most of the trucking companies into bankruptcy. He is quite knowledgeable on diesel emissions and says the claims by CARB are based on flawed data. He claims there is no legitimate case of death from diesel emissions. The data is gathered so haphazardly that it is impossible to pin point where the problem lies. He claims we still get a lot of very dirty diesel in spite of the ULSD mandate. So they can put all the expensive emissions devices on a truck and still not get rid of the soot that you see coming from truck exhaust. Add to that all the trucks coming up from Mexico have very little regulation and they can burn the dirtiest of diesel fuel. For those that have experienced the smog in San Bernardino. Ever wonder where it comes from. Two big sources. There is a natural valley that carries the pollution from San Pedro/Long Beach harbor right up to the mountains. San Bernardino is a railroad hub with all those locomotives burning the nastiest diesel you can imagine. Instead of shutting down the shipping and rail industry CARB outlaws selling a diesel Beetle in the state. One equipped with the latest in catalytic converters. A vehicle that uses about half the fossil fuel of a gas Beetle. It also produces about half the CO2. Is there some reason I should not be anti government regulation? |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 28, 2008 8:14 am) My other take is the one reason the diesel beetle is from banned to limited is because it precisely does what the CARB & EPA says it should do. They really do not want the better results, they just want a Hollywood type illusionary passion play: opiate the masses principle. So in a pervese way the realities metric out to: 29 mpg is better than 50 mpg. Higher C02 emissions is BETTER than lower C02 emissions. From ZERO to 15 ppm sulfur D2 fuel is worse than RUG to PUG  30 ppm. We want it sleezy, at much higher cost, taxation, consumption and emissions !!! Don't forget the more global realities, higher year over year consumption,MORE dependence on foreign oil, especially those hostile to the USA
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 28, 2008 8:14 am) .. ... Next major embarrassment for CARB (after a few hundred million down the drain) the UREA systems will be obsolete before the last truckstop has them installed. That is if Homeland Security does not wake-up first and STOP all those potential point of purchase locations for ammonia. BTW, there is no law that says these truckstops have to sell UREA. Pilot and TA say they will, Flying J went Chapter 11 yesterday.
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Replying to: roland3 (Dec 28, 2008 4:44 pm) Sad. When I drove, Bingo, Husky & Union 76 were my stops of choice, depending on fuel pricing, convenience &/or food/lodging. They're all gone now, but Flying J filled in for a few of my favorites.
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 28, 2008 8:14 am) As to diesel fuel, especially the domestic stuff, it is rotten swill. It is dirty and the cetane rating is barely 42 or 43. I am changing the fuel filter on my Jeep Liberty CRD every 10K to 12K miles instead of the called for 24K miles. The filter comes out black, coal black after 10 to 12K miles. I must add additives and cetane improver to make sure my CRD will start in the colder weather and run properly. As to any form of D2, EPA decided to convert all forms of D2 usage over in steps instead of all at once. That means the trains can still use high sulfur garbage. Look at home #2 heating oil at 5000 ppm of sulfur. ULSD for home heating oil will not be available for another few years. Tell me this is not nuts. I use oil to heat my home and the sulfur laden ash in the heat ex changer really makes a mess. And the Mexican fuel and some of the U.S. drivers who use it, all delightful. As to the issue of PM (particulate matter) found in diesel exhaust, there are some nasty compounds found in PM called PAH, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons. PAH are carcinogenic and caused by the incomplete combustion of aromatic compounds found on fossil fuel. Removal of aromatic compounds in diesel fuel will reduce the amount of PAH and also reduce the amount of PM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycyclic_aromatic_hydrocarbon#Occurrence_and_poll- ution
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Dec 28, 2008 5:35 pm) |
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Replying to: winter2 (Dec 28, 2008 6:15 pm) It is no secret that the oil companies have preferred to sell gasoline to the masses for over 100 years. Diesel is the premier product produced from oil. It provides all our major transportation and freight hauling needs. Gas is still the nasty by product. It should be obvious that we are running a surplus of gas with the big price difference. That is unfortunate for the few discriminating drivers such as yourself that are using diesel. I am surprised you do not have a high grade of ULSD available. What state are you in? I was very happy with BP/ARCO ULSD in my two diesel vehicles. I do anticipate owning another diesel in the next year.
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 28, 2008 8:14 am) kcram - Pickups Host
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Replying to: kcram (Dec 28, 2008 8:04 pm)
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