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Re: Just another D2 tank full [gagrice]
by ruking1
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Dec 20, 2008 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 20, 2008 7:19 am)
We literally have ARCO/BP stations in every NoCA city and while this might be an exaggeration and in multiple locations. However, perhaps I am not goggling correctly, as they show the closest DIESEL (retail) location 65 miles away.
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Re: Just another D2 tank full [ruking1]
by gagrice
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Dec 20, 2008 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 20, 2008 7:53 am)
I printed a list before I took a trip in my MB Cruiser diesel with all the BP/ARCO stations that sold diesel. Now that site seems to be gone. It was prior to the ULSD mandate in 2005. Most ARCO stations do not sell diesel. We only have two that I know of in San DIego. Fortunately they are on my regular path.
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Re: Just another D2 tank full [gagrice]
by ruking1
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Dec 21, 2008 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 20, 2008 2:05 pm)
Thanks for both the reminder and the heads up. It seems (in the west anyway) that both Chevron and Arco/BP serve up the highest D2 cetane (ratings, i.e., 50/52-53 cetane).
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- #7297 of 8143
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MORE SALESMAN SALES HYPE [gagrice]
by hypnosis44
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Dec 21, 2008 (4:07 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 20, 2008 6:53 am)
Specious sales hype along right along with several other auto makers making the same claims.
Tick Tock
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Re: MORE SALESMAN SALES HYPE [hypnosis44]
by gagrice
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Dec 21, 2008 (4:22 pm)
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Replying to: hypnosis44 (Dec 21, 2008 4:07 pm)
I wondered where you went. Thought maybe you got mugged on the bus going to hear Al Gore at GW meeting. Have they signed you up to sell carbon credits?
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Diesel Price Check
by altair4
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Dec 21, 2008 (5:27 pm)
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Local station - Pittsburgh, PA suburbs
RUG - $1.759
PUG - $1.999
Diesel - $2.899
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Re: Just another D2 tank full [ruking1]
by winter2
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Dec 21, 2008 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 21, 2008 10:03 am)
I live in Maryland and I would love to see 50+ cetane D2 here. We are lucky if we get 45 cetane. I need to add cetane improver to each tankful of D2 I buy.
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Re: Diesel Price Check [altair4]
by winter2
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Dec 21, 2008 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: altair4 (Dec 21, 2008 5:27 pm)
In Germantown MD
RUG 1.559
Diesel 2.439
All prices are cash.
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Old news, but is the percentage still measurable?
by ruking1
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Dec 24, 2008 (8:25 am)
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Interesting math problem:
what is 33,541 (US market diesel passenger cars) / 250,400,000 (US registered vehicles in 2004) ?
link title
.0001339 % !?
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Re: ... Diesel Design Thoughts [winter2]
by roland3
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Dec 26, 2008 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: winter2 (Dec 17, 2008 12:36 pm)
... Winter, there a few things CARB and or EPA and or the manufacturers don't want you to know. There are many failing DPF's, many removed, when in burn/clean mode they use much fuel and create NOx, they reduce MPG and increase carbon output even when in spec, they increase purchase and maintenance costs. The systems going down the highway out of spec might be more of a problem than none at all (industry wide).
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... Do I have a solution ? Well, several companies are starting to offer retro-fit exchange DPF's. These don't require the individual vehicle to have the proper burn/clean mode. Just unfasten a few stainless steel band clamps (after the red light comes on on the dash), drop the DPF at a dealer and pick up your clean filter. These have been cleaned under a much better controlled procedure in a designed facility.
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... Beyond that I still have to wonder if we had Aveos, Neon, Foci, Jetta, Camry, Accord size vehicles getting seventy MPG with no DPF and no EGR that had say 90 percent less particulate and seventy percent less NOx than 1990 vehicles with much less carbon output than anything today, brought about about by very sophisticated fuel injection, would we not be better off ???
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... I want clean air but the CARB regs today are not for internal combustion engines. My opinion is that it is only possible with a major battery breakthrough and solar/wind recharging.
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