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Re: Diesel Fuel in the news [gagrice]
by winter2
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Dec 18, 2008 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 18, 2008 6:45 am)
In the mean time I want a DIESEL SUV that will get me close to 30 MPG on the highway. With a sense of having enough steel around me as protection from a crazed eco weinie in a hybrid that has lost control and crashes into me.
That SUV already exists and I have one. It is the Jeep Liberty CRD that Daimler-Chrysler sold in 2005 and 2006. When driven judiciously, 30+ MPG on the road is not uncommon. I also understand that the Jeep Grand Cherokee with the V-6 Daimler diesel will get close to 30 MPG.
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Re: Diesel Fuel in the news [winter2]
by gagrice
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Dec 18, 2008 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: winter2 (Dec 18, 2008 1:22 pm)
I looked at the Grand Cherokee and it did not have enough leg room in the second row. I am probably going to get the BMW X5 diesel or the GL320 CDI. We take another couple with us out to the desert quite often and it is a long days drive. I don't like to be cramped, so I don't do that to others. I would like the liberty engine in a Wrangler. Not sure why Jeep did not add that option.
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Re: More diesel [ruking1]
by avalon02wh
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Dec 18, 2008 (4:19 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 17, 2008 5:22 pm)
There was no connection implied regarding the EIA projections and the Exxon announcement other then they were both "diesel in the news".
I suspect that the extra diesel fuel might even be sold to truckers, not just TDI owners. 
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Re: More diesel [avalon02wh]
by ruking1
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Dec 18, 2008 (7:37 pm)
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Dec 18, 2008 4:19 pm)
Like I said, the numbers do NOT compute !!! It also is an interesting clue that diesel prices (as well as RUG to PUG) are lock stepped/slam dunk to CLIMB !
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- #7290 of 8133
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Just another D2 tank full
by ruking1
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Dec 19, 2008 (9:46 am)
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Slow news diesel day ! Just did a D2 "winter" fill, 6 gals for 305 miles  50 mpg. Must be all that stop and go and winterized fuel ! $2.33 it has a tad to go down before it gets back to diesel prices when I bought my 03 TDI new (1.87?) We are getting ripped off, in that a barrel of oil is way cheaper NOW than it was then when diesel fuel was at 1.87 !!! But then we have known this all along.
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- #7291 of 8133
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VW doing their part with diesel and??
by gagrice
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Dec 20, 2008 (6:53 am)
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See how VW of America is doing their part to reduce and offset carbon emissions. What have the other auto makers done?
http://www.vw.com/vwhype/carbonneutral/en/us/
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Re: Just another D2 tank full [ruking1]
by ruking1
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Dec 20, 2008 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 19, 2008 9:46 am)
Opps, I can't even punch the calculator buttons correctly! ( 305/6=50.83333 rather than 50 mpg) Ok, I exaggerated a tad, it is actually closer to 51 mpg. 
I now wonder what the mpg figures would be if I got/stayed on the Chevron load (2.39 per rather than the off brand 2.33 per, Chevron claims 50 cetane vs 40-43 for the so called "house brand")
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Re: Just another D2 tank full [ruking1]
by gagrice
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Dec 20, 2008 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 20, 2008 6:59 am)
Do you get ARCO/BP brand ULSD in your area? I think I read it is 52-53 cetane rated.
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Re: Just another D2 tank full [gagrice]
by ruking1
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Dec 20, 2008 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 20, 2008 7:19 am)
We literally have ARCO/BP stations in every NoCA city and while this might be an exaggeration and in multiple locations. However, perhaps I am not goggling correctly, as they show the closest DIESEL (retail) location 65 miles away.
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Re: Just another D2 tank full [ruking1]
by gagrice
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Dec 20, 2008 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 20, 2008 7:53 am)
I printed a list before I took a trip in my MB Cruiser diesel with all the BP/ARCO stations that sold diesel. Now that site seems to be gone. It was prior to the ULSD mandate in 2005. Most ARCO stations do not sell diesel. We only have two that I know of in San DIego. Fortunately they are on my regular path.
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