Diesels in the News

Replying to: avalon02wh (Dec 17, 2008 4:34 pm)

In terms of the diesel cars, the projected numbers D2 diesel car of the green congress ( PER Exxon Mobil projection of of 6M gal of D2 per day) do NOT convert. Again one can use whatever numbers, but here is a number that does NOT convert/compute: 35 mpg (new 2012 standards) 2M diesels, 12-15k miles per year average 35 mpg/ 12k-15k year average =343 - 429 gals per year/365 days per year D2 PER CAR= .94 gal to 1.17 gals per day/6M gal=
 
6.383 M to 5.13 M diesel cars. LOADS of extra D2 fuel.

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Replying to: larsb (Dec 17, 2008 12:43 pm)

All future cars worth a darn will also be.
 
ALL is a big word to describe future cars. My main interest in an EV would be the simplicity of a car with a battery, motor and charger. Direct drive NO transmission or $11,000 PSD device. Maybe an electric heat exchanger that cools in the summer and heats in the winter. I could live in So CA without either. The biggest plus would be getting rid of dozens of worthless sensors. Many that are part of the EPA emissions requirement on all fossil fuel engines. They are the problem with all new cars IMO. Many people get tired of taking their cars in for the dealer to reset some POC computer that turns on a light on the dash saying your tires are flat when it was just the Toyota dealer being too lazy to fill the spare with the same pressure as the other four tires.
 
So I have a slight optimism that we will get back to keeping it simple sometime in the future. It will keep cars on the road longer and be environmentally better all around.
 
In the mean time I want a DIESEL SUV that will get me close to 30 MPG on the highway. With a sense of having enough steel around me as protection from a crazed eco weinie in a hybrid that has lost control and crashes into me.

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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 17, 2008 5:22 pm)

There was no connection implied regarding the EIA projections and the Exxon announcement other then they were both "diesel in the news".
 
I suspect that the extra diesel fuel might even be sold to truckers, not just TDI owners.

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• ruking1 (Dec 18, 2008 7:37 pm)

Replying to: avalon02wh (Dec 18, 2008 4:19 pm)

Slow news diesel day ! Just did a D2 "winter" fill, 6 gals for 305 miles 50 mpg. Must be all that stop and go and winterized fuel ! $2.33 it has a tad to go down before it gets back to diesel prices when I bought my 03 TDI new (1.87?) We are getting ripped off, in that a barrel of oil is way cheaper NOW than it was then when diesel fuel was at 1.87 !!! But then we have known this all along.

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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 19, 2008 9:46 am)

Opps, I can't even punch the calculator buttons correctly! ( 305/6=50.83333 rather than 50 mpg) Ok, I exaggerated a tad, it is actually closer to 51 mpg.
 
I now wonder what the mpg figures would be if I got/stayed on the Chevron load (2.39 per rather than the off brand 2.33 per, Chevron claims 50 cetane vs 40-43 for the so called "house brand")

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