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Replying to: roland3 (Nov 30, 2008 3:21 am) http://www.vmmotori.it/en/01/00/01/dettaglio.jsp?id=56 It uses the same Bosch CP3 pump at 1600 Bar but delivers 60 more Newton-Meters ( 44.25 lb-ft) of torque over the version I have.
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Replying to: roland3 (Nov 30, 2008 9:20 am) Naturally a lot of diesel types look to longer time/milegage frames. Since the current Honda diesels do not hit the US market, finding information is a tad on the arcane side from the normal information channels.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 01, 2008 7:41 am) Honda i-DTEC
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Replying to: alltorque (Dec 01, 2008 8:28 am) My take is a combination of one respondents take: "Diesels are expensive, especially four valve, overhead cam, high pressure, direct injection, turbo inter cooler, diesels with a closed loop microcomputer control, cat converter and particulate filter. I think what you are seeing here is the peak of the ICEs. It is becoming more costly to continue to invent complicated tweaking for the ICE than it is to improve the battery and electric drive lines for BEVs. Once BEVs can attain a 70 mph speed for a 350 mile range and be recharged in 10 to 20 minutes, there will be little need for the ICE except for heavy hauling range extensions. " Actually hybrids and or electrical can cost far more, but IF the plug in electrical can have a range of say 300-500 miles (30 min recharge) a secondary or back up diesel engine would make a GREAT combination !!! You basically can run the diesel engine when you want/have to.
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About the only thing that Edmunds liked about this SUV was the improved mileage...and that was only 18/24. They did not like the transmission at all. Very sluggish with a big lag. Steering wheel like a bus, no feedback, and very sloppy. Suspension too soft with huge body roll. Firmer setting on the air suspension just made it jiggly and did not improve body roll. Very disappointing.
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Replying to: houdini1 (Dec 01, 2008 1:25 pm) |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 01, 2008 8:42 am)
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Replying to: roland3 (Dec 02, 2008 9:36 am)  Be that as it may, an electrical/D2 alternative by ANY metric, meets the PRACTICAL definition of ALTERNATIVE FUEL !!!! ??????? But essentially I believe D2 (and the variants: bio diesel, etc.,) will be viable for at least the next generarion (30-40 years) . In the scheme of things, this time frame can be like almost FOREVER! Till then, D2 keeps the 20-40% fuel advantage (other things also) over RUG to PUG. |
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quote- Most of the world relies on diesel rather than gasoline for transportation fuel and heating demand. According to the International Energy Agency (IEA) the world consumed just 0.75 gallons of gasoline for every gallon of diesel in 2005, and the refinery system was configured to produce the two fuels in roughly the same proportion (https://customers.reuters.com/d/graphic s/FL_CNSP1208.gif). The U.S. petroleum economy is highly unusual in that it is tilted towards consumption and production of gasoline. The United States consumes almost two gallons of gasoline (1.97) for every gallon of diesel; the European Union consumes only 0.40 gallons and China consumes 0.48 gallons. Until recently, that led to a mutually beneficial trade, with the United States exporting surplus diesel, while Europe and China exported surplus gasoline (https://customers.reuters.com/d/graphic s/REFINEPRDS1208.htm). -end Bleak Outlook for US Refiners
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Replying to: moparbad (Dec 02, 2008 4:32 pm) As per EIA.gov figures 46% (of a barrel of oil 42 gals) are RUG to PUG (19.3 gals) and 23.4% is D2 (9.83 gals). link title So if you just let the car population be 23% diesel, you will STRUCTURALLY decrease RUG to PUG demand, ie import almost exponentially less barrels of oil. Simultaneously we need to let engines that are DESIGNED to burn bio diesel that will use the waste products generated by on going domestic manufacturing processes. Indeed algae shows enormous promise in generating both bio diesel and food and who knows what else. Algae also eats C02 and a by product is OXYGEN !!!!!
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