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8141 messages, Last post on Nov 25, 2009 at 6:51 AM
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Just been reading that, from Feb 2009, the Porsche Cayenne will be offered with a diesel - Audi's 3.0 TDi, (after all, Porsche do own a big lump of VW Group). In the Audi A6 this engine is quoted as 230bhp/332lbft, I believe. Offering will be in Europe-only initially, but other markets are under consideration, apparently. "Hey, what's that noise ? Oh it's just the gnashing of teeth in the Porsche-purists camp". Way of the world, it seems. 
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Replying to: jlbl (Nov 22, 2008 1:29 pm)
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Replying to: alltorque (Nov 23, 2008 2:56 am) I just want to thank you and Jose for keeping US posted on what is available in the real world. We in LaLa land can only drool....
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 23, 2008 5:22 am)
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Replying to: roland3 (Nov 23, 2008 10:55 am)  least 53 years!?) been major cheerleaders for quashing higher fuel standards, aka Michigan's House of Representatives and acknowledged DEAN (Democrat) The Honorable John D. Dingell. link title I would say they have done a fine job !!!    So while you can say even they can see the writing on the wall; INXS of 25 B on top of the already 25 B for the recent passage of 2012 fuel standards is an absolute slam dunk no brainer. It is not hard to come to the conclusion diesels do not play much of a role in this equation. However this is precisely why getting a good diesel if and when you can might be the smart move. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 23, 2008 5:22 am) Recommend you watch the latest Top Gear prog, (was aired here in U.K. last night). The three lads got to drive from Basel in Switzerland to Blackpool in U.K. Approx 750miles - the challenge being to do it on only one tank of fuel. Hammond chose a VW Polo 1.4 TDi "Bluemotion", May ran a Subaru Legacy Tourer diesel and Clarkson had a Jaguar XJ 2.7 twin-turbo diesel, (on the grounds that it was a stupid challenge). Hammond just got there first at around 84mpg. After a lot of faffing about, (incl some 70mph cruising to prove his point that it couldn't be done), Clarkson arrived shortly after and May - well, he may still be driving around the U.K. The amazing outcome was that the big Jag showed that it was capable of around 1000 miles on a tankful of diesel, if driven sensibly. Outstanding economy for such a car. Well worth watching if/when you can. Should be on BBC iPlayer if you can access it. All the mpg figures are Imperial, of course, so you'll need to do the conversions for USgals. |
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Replying to: alltorque (Nov 24, 2008 7:39 am) 69.94 mpg
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 24, 2008 8:27 am) No wonder they were all astounded.
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Replying to: alltorque (Nov 24, 2008 9:20 am) 45 miles per gal the twin turbo diesel gets 3 times to 3.75 x better mileage !!!!!! This might be a good reason why our K-12 school system pooh poohs mathematics? Our "leaders" still don't get it. But they still generate a lot of hot air about it.
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Replying to: alltorque (Nov 24, 2008 7:39 am) Sure it's my pleasure too. There are so many good diesel cars over here… practically the full range of asians, europeans, and the USA big three brands offer diesels, from the biggest to the smallest models. I'm not a diesel apostle. In my life I´ve driven gassers and diesels and enjoyed both. My conclusion is: driving a diesel through torque is at least as fun as it can be driving a gasser to the redline but more fuel efficient. That said, I must say that by no means I'm a hypermiler. I like to drive agile. I enjoyed my last 530d and I enjoy even more my current 335d. I much liked a 118d I drove extensively last winter; she was an excellent blend of performance and economy. My point is that opting between gassers and clean diesels is a good choice which can be made almost everywhere. Why not in the USA? Let the buyers decide. (Please do not forget legislation also is environment ally conservative over here.) Regards, Jose
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