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Re: This ought to get the diesel-sniffers going [roland3] by ruking1
Nov 20, 2008 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: roland3 (Nov 20, 2008 9:02 am)

Oh yes!! If GM used a "bullet proof" turbo (up to twin) diesel, a so called "touring" Corvette would get my attention !!
 
As an aside, 45 mpg would extend the range to 810 miles !!!
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Re: This ought to get the diesel-sniffers going [ruking1] by ruking1
Nov 20, 2008 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 20, 2008 9:10 am)

Just on the CNBC Cable NOOS: there is an auto bail out agreement reached. I can't wait for my TBD, Z06 Corvette tax credits and tax deductions for the new twin turbo diesel !! (being as how we ALL are now owners of GM and the other two)
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Re: This ought to get the diesel-sniffers going [larsb] by plekto
Nov 21, 2008 (3:36 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 20, 2008 7:00 am)

Nice. That sort of setup also has implications I bet for NASCAR and F1 racing, as 35mpg would be a huge incentive. Imagine only making one pit stop for gas in an entire race. For a shorter one, maybe not even having to stop at all.
 
No, there's nothing wrong with diesel cars in NASCAR. Just that nobody has bothered to make one yet. Though, there has been talk of entries in the truck series lately.
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... Diesel Design Thoughts by roland3
Nov 22, 2008 (6:26 am)
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... The new Duramax has the exhaust up where you might expect the intake to be, on a V-8. This is good for heat (read turbo) management and packaging (overall size). Other than size I think twin turbos, mounted low and close to the foward end(s) of the head(s), (for heat management) might be even better. Of course there is no way to bring a twin turbo, down the line, as cost effective as a single layout.
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Re: This ought to get the diesel-sniffers going [plekto] by alltorque
Nov 22, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Nov 21, 2008 3:36 pm)

Diesels already race in BTCC, (British Touring Car Championships), and WTCC, (World ditto).
 
Team in each series is SEAT, which is an "economy" marque within the VW family, from Spain. The car is a SEAT Leon which is, basically, a re-bodied VW Golf. This year the SEAT BTCC team came second in the championships behind Team Vauxhall, (GM's major brand in U.K.), with their Astra VXR's.........which are gassers.
 
So, diesels are racing, in Europe, with VW backing. Is anyone surprised ?
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Re: This ought to get the diesel-sniffers going [alltorque] by jlbl
Nov 22, 2008 (1:29 pm)
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Replying to: alltorque (Nov 22, 2008 12:02 pm)

I believe WTCC has came to its end this season. SEAT (diesel) was the teams champ, followed by BMW, Chevrolet and Honda (all gassers).
 
WTCC home
WTCC year results
 
And Yvan Muller (France) (SEAT Diesel) was the leader pilot.
Yvan Muller
 
Add this to Audi R10 wins in 24 Hours du Mans and the picture is complete.
 
Regards,
Jose
 
PS. I'm sorry I could not find an Ivan Mueller website written in English.
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Porsche Diesel by alltorque
Nov 23, 2008 (2:56 am)
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Just been reading that, from Feb 2009, the Porsche Cayenne will be offered with a diesel - Audi's 3.0 TDi, (after all, Porsche do own a big lump of VW Group). In the Audi A6 this engine is quoted as 230bhp/332lbft, I believe.
 
Offering will be in Europe-only initially, but other markets are under consideration, apparently.
 
"Hey, what's that noise ? Oh it's just the gnashing of teeth in the Porsche-purists camp".
 
Way of the world, it seems.
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Re: This ought to get the diesel-sniffers going [jlbl] by alltorque
Nov 23, 2008 (2:58 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Nov 22, 2008 1:29 pm)

Jose, Many thanks for adding some flesh to my skimpy post.
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Re: Porsche Diesel [alltorque] by gagrice
Nov 23, 2008 (5:22 am)
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Replying to: alltorque (Nov 23, 2008 2:56 am)

You guys get all the good stuff. A friend from Greece spent the week with us. He wanted to know why we did not buy one of the small cars with a 1.0L diesel? I told him this was the first year in while we could even buy a diesel anything in California. He was amazed. And a bit insulted when I told him it was our very strict emissions that keep diesels out of the country. His response, what about the huge waste of OIL by Americans?
 
I just want to thank you and Jose for keeping US posted on what is available in the real world. We in LaLa land can only drool....
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Re: Porsche Diesel [gagrice] by roland3
Nov 23, 2008 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 23, 2008 5:22 am)

... Good point from Europe. It seems to me that there is too much attention to the tailpipe and obviously not the big overall carbon picture. There also seems to be little attention paid to what goes up the stacks of the refineries.

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