- #7192 of 8133
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Re: Automatic Accord Diesel [alltorque]
by ruking1
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Nov 18, 2008 (11:43 am)
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Replying to: alltorque (Nov 18, 2008 11:25 am)
Indeed most folks who have diesels and those interested in them probably already know this, but the automatic in a diesel has to solve different "issues" if you will.
The easiest one to point to: max torque is delivered at 1750 rpm's.
So for example the DSG computer controlled dual clutch manual can shift in "mirco seconds" back and forth to the next clutch: both automatically and manually.
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- #7193 of 8133
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Re: Automatic Accord Diesel [ruking1]
by houdini1
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Nov 18, 2008 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 18, 2008 11:43 am)
I owned a 1978 Mercedes 240D automatic back in the early 80's. It was a little bit slow off the line but could cruise at 80 mph all day long with no problem. I would rank it as one of my all time favorites, and my all time favorite comparing it to other cars of the same era.
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- #7194 of 8133
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Re: Automatic Accord Diesel [houdini1]
by ruking1
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Nov 18, 2008 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 18, 2008 12:37 pm)
Given this juncture, I do not see why (actually I do) there can't be a plethora of diesel and turbo diesel models. I have had a lot of seat time in an old 300D (non turbo) diesel. Based on that experience, I would recommend the turbo (diesel).
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- #7195 of 8133
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Re: Automatic Accord Diesel [ruking1]
by houdini1
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Nov 18, 2008 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 18, 2008 12:44 pm)
I am sure a turbo would have livened it up considerably. I don't remember now if it was available in the 240 back then or if you had to step up to the 300 for the turbo. I paid around $8,000. for it back in 1980 (used) and that was about all I could handle. 
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- #7196 of 8133
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Re: Automatic Accord Diesel [houdini1]
by ruking1
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Nov 18, 2008 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 18, 2008 1:22 pm)
I probably should put the turbo recommendation in context. The times I drove the 300D were trips to the mountains (6,300 ft or so). On the way UP, heaven help you if you were forced to brake/slowdown. You might not be able to regain normal up grade speeds (60-65 mph) for a ways and time. I recall times of a slower moving truck changing lanes to pass and either being forced to brake or slow and BARELY able to coax 35 mph on the uphill speed re build.
Contrast this with a 1.9 TDI (smaller displacement if memory serves correctly), you can literally maintain 80-90 mph cruising speeds. Of course on Highway 80 or 50 (on the way to Lake Tahoe CA ,you dont really want to do this as the roads are very rough.
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- #7197 of 8133
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Re: Automatic Accord Diesel [ruking1]
by houdini1
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Nov 18, 2008 (2:28 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 18, 2008 2:04 pm)
Lol, yep, I took mine to the mountains....once.
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- #7198 of 8133
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This ought to get the diesel-sniffers going
by larsb
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Nov 20, 2008 (7:00 am)
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Fastest Street Legal Diesel Car
"You're putting diesel in your car!"
Wood continued to pump the fuel, let out a chuckle and said, "I know."
His is not a typical Ford.
Wood owns Nitrous Express, which produces high-performance car parts for customers around the globe. It took him about a year and $50,000 to disassemble a working sports car just to put it back together -- with some major changes.
Pulling the 20 or so hood pins reveals a 2004 Chevrolet diesel pickup engine capable of 1,200 horsepower.
It is the fastest diesel-powered street-legal car in the world -- and it averages 35 miles per gallon.
"It was a challenge," Wood said. "I just wanted to prove I could do it."
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- #7199 of 8133
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Re: This ought to get the diesel-sniffers going [larsb]
by ruking1
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Nov 20, 2008 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 20, 2008 7:00 am)
..."and it averages 35 miles per gallon."...
Gee and meets the 2012 35 mpg economy standards , today!!  
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- #7200 of 8133
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Re: This ought to get the diesel-sniffers going [ruking1]
by ruking1
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Nov 20, 2008 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 20, 2008 7:18 am)
Just an after thought, but it is almost hard to imagine 2000 ft #'s of torque with 1200 hp on tap.
The owner of a Corvette specialty shop where I was getting a mundane alignment, once took me for a (of a series of break in) ride in a 650 hp (and who knows how many # ft of torque gasser V-8 (normally aspirated) probably close to 575 # ft of torque).
Judas Priest !!!!
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- #7201 of 8133
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Re: This ought to get the diesel-sniffers going [larsb]
by roland3
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Nov 20, 2008 (9:02 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 20, 2008 7:00 am)
... You have to wonder what a country would be like, that there was no possible way for an individual to do some experimentation at home. The percent of modified vehicles is small and to some extent I think it improves the breed and even shows the big manufacturers what is possible. A Zo/6 with next year's new lightweight Duramax would be interesting.
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