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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 30, 2008 12:40 pm) Gotta say, though, that the VW CleanDiesel Jetta was solid. Handled very nicely, the noise level was completely acceptable at cold start, and imperceptible when under way. Only drove it on a short suburban loop, but was impressed with its comfort and solidity.
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Replying to: altair4 (Oct 31, 2008 5:30 am)  74,600) miles. Even as this week I had the 3rd alignment done and 2nd set of tires. (vs none needed for a VW TDI 100,000 and still running the tires 110,000 miles) You will have other( fixed cost) issues. I would try to get the cheapest to insure vehicle in whatever range you decide. I can almost tell you it will be neither the TDI,Civic, nor hybrid. Oxymoronically the cheapest insurance of the lot is a Z06 ! Don't ask me why.
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Replying to: altair4 (Oct 31, 2008 5:30 am) It's at about 12000-15000 miles that the choice begins to make any difference in fuel usage and cost. |
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How 'bout this? 55 MPG at 85 MPH SOMEWHERE WEST OF WHEELING my co-driver and I hit 110 mph. We weren't in a Lamborghini or a Veyron. We were driving in an Audi A3 with 2.0 liter, 4-cylinder TDI diesel engine.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 31, 2008 5:54 am) Our work schedules are such that we can't combine and rid ourselves of one car. My wife, out of the blue, recently told me that we need a minivan. Completely out of character for her - but she likes to take our kids and friends places. I'm put off by the mileage they get, but on the bright side, as pointed out, it really doesn't make that much of a difference, since we're so low mileage people. I'll probably keep my car another 5 years. Maybe another year or so for the Accord. To keep this on topic, you'd think someone would have shoved a turbodiesel in a US model minivan by now. Now that's a vehicle screaming for better mileage. |
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 31, 2008 6:45 am) 75 mph. That is sooooooo 5/6 years ago! 
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Replying to: altair4 (Oct 31, 2008 6:52 am) On the other hand, this is the best of times/worst of times to get a (new) vehicle. If you can manage to get all the factors in your favor and get (a coveted vehicle) at or below invoice, I'd say happy hunting. It seems that everything has at least one major downside to it. I think there will be a host of deals on the 08 M's Y once the 09 MY more fully hit the markets. Industry folks like kdhspyder can chime in here, as I am no industry pundit, just a consumer making a (hopefully) logical swag. So for example it makes NO sense to make a monthly payment for say a Honda minivan. Using your monthly mileage (9500/12=792 miles/500 mo payments= .63 cents a mile !!!!!! It goes on and on.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 31, 2008 7:02 am) IMO both vehicles ( they are the same in fact ) are great opportunities for the introduction of new diesel technology. But the price of fuel is still a barrier.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 31, 2008 10:50 am) While this is NOT a criticism, I would wonder about the durability of the automatic transmission mated to a torquey diesel. (given a prior post about the only one to really do automatic transmission to diesel mating well is MB 320/350 turbo diesel) I personally am crossing my fingers nothing happens to my automatic transmission in a (gasser) Civic, but at the same time, I am saving money for the repair as they tend to fail 225,000 miles as I have gleaned (statistically) . Keep in mind the Civic has relatively weak torque. For my .02 cents, straw man, in light of there are exponentially MORE (both percentage and volume) of the population that "have/want to" buy PUG. PUG is even more than diesel and gets far less fuel mileage. Predictably, fuel cost per mile driven is ridiculously lopsided. As even the introduction of D2 people movers such as Odyssey/MDX is likely NOT likely to change the D2 passenger diesel population appreciably; let alone measurably or was that vice versa. Corner store prices RUG 3.29 PUG 3.55 D2 3.09 |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 31, 2008 7:02 am) Who knows what the market will look like by then? Depends on the fuels available, depends if the economy recovers, depends if either of our cars get into trouble (like an accident). If one of them bit the dust now, I'd probably look for a CPO Ody, or something similar. |
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