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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 06, 2008 4:27 pm) That seems a bit low to me. Why would anyone buy the gas version if they tried the TDI. Makes no sense. The tax credit will take up the difference in cost. And the resale will be way more when they are ready to trade in. The Jetta TDI is a NO COST option. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 06, 2008 4:44 pm) |
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... Did it ever occur to you that "urea" will be worse than gov funded ethanol ? .. ... Did it ever occur to you that the Argonne National Labs has an invention that can supersede urea in a few years ? .. ... Did it ever occur to you that the manager that proposed this is a publicity hound ? .. ... Did it ever occur to you that your already overcrowded truck stops will be a huge source of pollution as your fuel lines will be overcrowded.? .. ... Did it ever occur to you that I and as many people as I can muster will refuse to buy fuel from any business that implements this foolish and short-sighted infrastructure sewer ? .. ... Did it ever occur to you that if you, Loves, TA, and Flying J, refuse to install this chemical nightmare the the gov ( Argonne's father) will have to change the regs ?
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Replying to: roland3 (Oct 07, 2008 4:02 am) I don't know about TN. In CA trucking companies are going out of business. I don't see them buying new trucks with expensive SCR equipment. If anything it will push the trucking companies that don't go bankrupt to just rebuild the old engines. We are competing with Mexican trucks that are much older and unlikely to be upgraded. Unless this is a mandate for all trucks using the highways of the USA. I would say that could be devastating to an already shaky business. As per usual the EPA gets on a high position and screws up the works. I have read the information on Argonne Labs inventions to clean diesel exhaust. It is baffling to me why they do not implement the simpler solution. Probably some Congress Person has ties to the AdBlue manufacturers.
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 06, 2008 4:44 pm) Gary, The "oil-burner" is referring to the diesel version. It's what they call the diesels across the pond in Europe. FYI...
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differential between RUG to PUG to diesel of late. Local store pricing: 3.81 RUG 4.07 PUG 3.88 D2 |
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Gary, maybe this is your next diesel SUV: Audi says "just TRY to smell our exhaust - Try It !!! It's day 2 and we're well into the next leg--getting a rating of 29 mpg--as we wind through the hilly Maryland and Pennsylvania countryside. Traffic has been lighter, and we're employing some coasting and drafting techniques to bolster fuel economy. We've also deviated from the Audi agenda, making stops at a Starbucks for a caffeine fix and at a Civil War battlefield in rural Maryland. So, things are going smoothly. The Q7s are well-appointed and the low-end torque has made for enjoyable driving. Check back here for more updates. Follow the fun on the web at Audi Mileage Marathon.
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 07, 2008 10:04 am)  A known comparison, on a 2003 VW Jetta TDI 50 mpg, vs a 2003 Jetta 2.0 RUG /1.8T PUG struggling to get 30 mpg. (40 %)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 07, 2008 10:15 am) 29 MPG for a vehicle that nice and that large is indeed a technical accomplishment. Sure, a diesel Smart can get around 65 MPG, but that's the size vehicle you get for that performance. Getting 29 MPG out of almost a full-size SUV weighing in at 5000 pounds is pretty darn good.
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 07, 2008 10:27 am) However we are glad you are coming around to the issue we have been saying all along: ..."Getting 29 MPG out of almost a full-size SUV weighing in at 5000 pounds is pretty darn good."... especially since like gassers MIGHT get between 15-19 mpg. There is really another quite unseen, hidden in plain sight issue. The current standard is 27 mpg with a defacto 22 mpg fleet wide. With the 2012 new 35 mpg standards; (keeping the same RATIOS) 29 mpg exceeds (not by much) the new (TBD) defacto ratio! It certainly EXCEEDS the current standard of 27 mpg. It goes without saying, or is very obvious; it is way better than the defacto 22 mpg.
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