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Re: The People's Diesel [moparbad] by ruking1
Oct 06, 2008 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: moparbad (Oct 06, 2008 2:55 pm)

I hope for their sake, they have made more of the VW Jetta in this case (non diesel portions) as bulletproof as the DIESEL portion.
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BIG diesel mistake..... by ruking1
Oct 06, 2008 (4:27 pm)
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BUT in a good way. (But then it is what we have been saying all along)
 
Jetta TDI proving more popular than VW planned
Posted Oct 3rd 2008 at 5:03PM by Jeremy Korzeniewski
 
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Re: BIG diesel mistake..... [ruking1] by gagrice
Oct 06, 2008 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 06, 2008 4:27 pm)

with nearly a third of sedan buyers and half of all wagon buyers opting for the oil-burner.
 
That seems a bit low to me. Why would anyone buy the gas version if they tried the TDI. Makes no sense. The tax credit will take up the difference in cost. And the resale will be way more when they are ready to trade in. The Jetta TDI is a NO COST option.
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Re: BIG diesel mistake..... [gagrice] by ruking1
Oct 06, 2008 (4:57 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 06, 2008 4:44 pm)

There are a lot of "ifs" in this take. On first look 2,000 over a like modeled gassers appears and is a "STIFF" premium. However, IF the IRS tax credit is applicable to the buyer, and the 2003 TDI aftermarket sales hold up (4,500) more than 1.8T aka like model , THEN the premium gets reduced to something like PLUS $4,100.
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... Pilot Truck Stops; Just Say NO by roland3
Oct 07, 2008 (4:02 am)
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... Did it ever occur to you that "urea" will be worse than gov funded ethanol ?
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... Did it ever occur to you that the Argonne National Labs has an invention that can supersede urea in a few years ?
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... Did it ever occur to you that the manager that proposed this is a publicity hound ?
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... Did it ever occur to you that your already overcrowded truck stops will be a huge source of pollution as your fuel lines will be overcrowded.?
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... Did it ever occur to you that I and as many people as I can muster will refuse to buy fuel from any business that implements this foolish and short-sighted infrastructure sewer ?
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... Did it ever occur to you that if you, Loves, TA, and Flying J, refuse to install this chemical nightmare the the gov ( Argonne's father) will have to change the regs ?
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Re: ... Pilot Truck Stops; Just Say NO [roland3] by gagrice
Oct 07, 2008 (5:01 am)
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Replying to: roland3 (Oct 07, 2008 4:02 am)

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- Pilot Travel Centers has announced it will offer diesel exhaust fluid (DEF) – or urea – "at the pump" for customers that will use trucks equipped with Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) in 2010.
 
I don't know about TN. In CA trucking companies are going out of business. I don't see them buying new trucks with expensive SCR equipment. If anything it will push the trucking companies that don't go bankrupt to just rebuild the old engines. We are competing with Mexican trucks that are much older and unlikely to be upgraded. Unless this is a mandate for all trucks using the highways of the USA. I would say that could be devastating to an already shaky business.
 
As per usual the EPA gets on a high position and screws up the works.
 
I have read the information on Argonne Labs inventions to clean diesel exhaust. It is baffling to me why they do not implement the simpler solution.
 
Probably some Congress Person has ties to the AdBlue manufacturers.
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Re: BIG diesel mistake..... [gagrice] by larsb
Oct 07, 2008 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 06, 2008 4:44 pm)

Gary says, "Why would anyone buy the gas version if they tried the TDI?"
 
Gary,
 
The "oil-burner" is referring to the diesel version. It's what they call the diesels across the pond in Europe.
 
FYI...
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Not too much lather in the price... by ruking1
Oct 07, 2008 (8:11 am)
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differential between RUG to PUG to diesel of late.
 
Local store pricing:
 
3.81 RUG
 
4.07 PUG
 
3.88 D2
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Another carmaker showcasing it's diesel offerings by larsb
Oct 07, 2008 (10:04 am)
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Gary, maybe this is your next diesel SUV:
 
Audi says "just TRY to smell our exhaust - Try It !!!
 
It's day 2 and we're well into the next leg--getting a rating of 29 mpg--as we wind through the hilly Maryland and Pennsylvania countryside. Traffic has been lighter, and we're employing some coasting and drafting techniques to bolster fuel economy. We've also deviated from the Audi agenda, making stops at a Starbucks for a caffeine fix and at a Civil War battlefield in rural Maryland.
 
So, things are going smoothly. The Q7s are well-appointed and the low-end torque has made for enjoyable driving. Check back here for more updates.
 
Follow the fun on the web at
Audi Mileage Marathon.
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Re: Another carmaker showcasing it's diesel offerings [larsb] by ruking1
Oct 07, 2008 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 07, 2008 10:04 am)

On the face of it 29 mpg does NOT sound like good mpg! While a Q7 diesel gets 29 mpg, it would be interesting to be able to compare what a Q7 gasser would get. It is understandable in that they would not want to truncate the sales of Q7 gassers!?
 
A known comparison, on a 2003 VW Jetta TDI 50 mpg, vs a 2003 Jetta 2.0 RUG /1.8T PUG struggling to get 30 mpg. (40 %)

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