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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [ruking1] by larsb
Oct 02, 2008 (2:39 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 2:34 pm)

That's because to have a sales DROP you must first have a sales PEAK.
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [larsb] by ruking1
Oct 02, 2008 (2:49 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 02, 2008 2:39 pm)

What can I say... YOU posted the article. Selling all you make is always preferable to coulda, woulda, shoulda, wanna. If I were a Prius buyer, I would be concerned about getting the "new batch" of batteries after the shortage.
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [ruking1] by larsb
Oct 02, 2008 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 2:49 pm)

VW August Sales Totals
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [larsb] by ruking1
Oct 02, 2008 (3:10 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 02, 2008 2:59 pm)

Per your VW posted article, their results are even more remarkable as VW posted a +2.9 INCREASE vs a Toyota, Ford, GM, DECREASE of MINUS -30%-37% (deltas of 32.9% to 39.9%) . Even Honda posted a loss of -24%!!? I would still be curious as to what % are diesels, as VW (the article you posted) does NOT break diesels out.
 
Moving to a separate topic, I have read the industry is on track to sell 14 M units this MY vs a more historic 16-17 M units !!!
 
My take: really it is a good time for higher mpg passenger diesels.
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [ruking1] by kdhspyder
Oct 02, 2008 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 2:49 pm)

What the heck are you talking about 'new batch'.. it's not like the old ones were sitting in some warehouse. They were being manufactured as fast as possible but demand outstripped capacity. In the future the capacity will be significantly larger.
 
Just for the unaware... model year changeover. Sept was the last month of the 2008s... the 2009s are arriving now - with a $500 price increase. Why ship lots of 2008s when the 2009s will bring in more money? Little details like this make for huge profits when applied across the entire product line and the entire world.
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [kdhspyder] by ruking1
Oct 02, 2008 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 02, 2008 3:47 pm)

..."What the heck are you talking about 'new batch'.. "...
 
You might want to read again the context in which this was said (after you wipe the coffee oozing from your nose)
 
In the context of the (posted) article, your responses indicate a misread.
 
If not, they really missed the boat by NOT saying it is a model "change over period" and is to be expected. To boot they also left out the new battery will have (whatever percentage) greater capacity, etc, etc, yada, yada,. CLEARLY nothing of the sort was said.
 
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [ruking1] by kdhspyder
Oct 02, 2008 (4:20 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 4:01 pm)

You need to have a longer wider view. Here are the parts of the puzzle to assemble.
 
Rising fuel prices affect almost the entire driving world.
The Prius is sold all over the developed world.
Battery production is limited.
Prius demand in relation to production is high all over the world.
The US$ is in the dumper.
The euro and yen as well as other currencies are much stronger than the US$.
Selling excess units in the US takes away potential sales from more lucrative markets with stronger currencies.
Selling prices in the EU are 20-30% higher than in the US.
The 2009s are $500 higher in price.
 
Ergo........there is no incentive whatsoever to 'push' 2008 sales.
 
Since you like to do back of the napkin calculations figure me this.
$20000 cost FOB port of export
18 mos ago the Y/$ was 120 / 1
Today it is 105 / 1
 
18 months ago that $20000 sale brought 2,400,000 yen
Today that $20000 sale brings 2,100,000 yen
That's 300,000 'lost' due to currency weakness.
 
Ergo......
 
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [kdhspyder] by ruking1
Oct 02, 2008 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 02, 2008 4:20 pm)

"You need to have a longer wider view"...
 
That is why I got a TDI. I am shooting for a min of 500,000 miles, but it is still a babe 110,000 miles. (although I am still running the oem tires)
 
If the Prius offered full battery replacement for 600 or so, after lasting between 200,000 to 300,000 miles, that would be an attractive alternative.
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2009 Jetta TDI gets the Nu Wurld Rekerd by larsb
Oct 03, 2008 (8:49 am)
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GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS US 48 STATES
LOWEST FUEL CONSUMPTION RECORD
Day Twenty
 
FINAL STATISTICS:
 
IT’S A NEW GUINNESS WORLD RECORD!!
 
Overall 58.82 US MPG
 
70.64 Imperial MPG
 
3.99 L/100 KM
 
11.04 Tanks of Shell Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel
 
Costing $US 653.06
 
Average 853 Miles per Tank (1,373 Km’s per Tank)
 
 $US 00.069 cents per mile
 
 9,419 Miles driven Read All About It
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Re: 2009 Jetta TDI gets the Nu Wurld Rekerd [larsb] by ruking1
Oct 03, 2008 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 03, 2008 8:49 am)

I am scratching my head a bit. Not that doubt what the article is saying, but for me 59 mpg is a can do easy and SURPRISE, when I had to keep at 75 to 80 mph during a trek through a 5 car, 3 state highway patrol customer service round up. Indeed I did nothing special, but keep between 75-80 mph and turned off the inferno radar detector for it was going off almost literally coming over EVERY crest of each hill (ok every other) .

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