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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 11:19 am) So would the Prius if 'Yota did not have a battery supply issue. Prius Battery Shortage There is no denying that the market for fuel-efficient cars is strong. If there were more TDIs and more Priuses available, the sales numbers for both those cars would shoot up.
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 02, 2008 12:09 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 2:34 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 02, 2008 2:39 pm)  Selling all you make is always preferable to coulda, woulda, shoulda, wanna. If I were a Prius buyer, I would be concerned about getting the "new batch" of batteries after the shortage.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 2:49 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 02, 2008 2:59 pm) Moving to a separate topic, I have read the industry is on track to sell 14 M units this MY vs a more historic 16-17 M units !!! My take: really it is a good time for higher mpg passenger diesels. |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 2:49 pm) Just for the unaware... model year changeover. Sept was the last month of the 2008s... the 2009s are arriving now - with a $500 price increase. Why ship lots of 2008s when the 2009s will bring in more money? Little details like this make for huge profits when applied across the entire product line and the entire world.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 02, 2008 3:47 pm) You might want to read again the context in which this was said (after you wipe the coffee oozing from your nose)  In the context of the (posted) article, your responses indicate a misread. If not, they really missed the boat by NOT saying it is a model "change over period" and is to be expected. To boot they also left out the new battery will have (whatever percentage) greater capacity, etc, etc, yada, yada,. CLEARLY nothing of the sort was said.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 4:01 pm) Rising fuel prices affect almost the entire driving world. The Prius is sold all over the developed world. Battery production is limited. Prius demand in relation to production is high all over the world. The US$ is in the dumper. The euro and yen as well as other currencies are much stronger than the US$. Selling excess units in the US takes away potential sales from more lucrative markets with stronger currencies. Selling prices in the EU are 20-30% higher than in the US. The 2009s are $500 higher in price. Ergo........there is no incentive whatsoever to 'push' 2008 sales. Since you like to do back of the napkin calculations figure me this. $20000 cost FOB port of export 18 mos ago the Y/$ was 120 / 1 Today it is 105 / 1 18 months ago that $20000 sale brought 2,400,000 yen Today that $20000 sale brings 2,100,000 yen That's 300,000 'lost' due to currency weakness. Ergo......
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 02, 2008 4:20 pm) That is why I got a TDI. I am shooting for a min of 500,000 miles, but it is still a babe  110,000 miles. (although I am still running the oem tires) If the Prius offered full battery replacement for 600 or so, after lasting between 200,000 to 300,000 miles, that would be an attractive alternative. |
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