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Re: Diesel fuel EVEN MORE energy-efficient !!?!?!?!?!? [houdini1]
by cdnpinhead
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Sep 29, 2008 (6:25 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Sep 29, 2008 5:56 pm)
Yeah, locomotives have been doing it for years. All they lack are the batteries.
They have the diesel/electric thing down & use regenerative braking. Let's see, they've been available & in increasing use since the early/mid '50's, so I guess the concept is only about 50 years "behind the times," as they used to say.
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Re: Diesel fuel EVEN MORE energy-efficient !!?!?!?!?!? [cdnpinhead]
by kcram HOST
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Sep 30, 2008 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Sep 29, 2008 6:25 pm)
Before the 50s! GM built diesel-electric buses for Public Service (NJ) back in 1940. Instead of a conventional transmission, the diesel engine generated electricity for the same "chopper" motors used on trolley buses. Essentially, the engine replaced the overhead wires and poles. The accelerator summoned more power from the engine which sent more electricity to the wheels.
kcram - Pickups Host
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On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well...
by ruking1
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Oct 02, 2008 (11:19 am)
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"GM sales fall 16% and that's the good news
FORD, CHRYSLER OFF 30%-PLUS"...
(on line version)
"Toyota, Ford, Chrysler's September sales each fall more than 30 percent"
link title
by Nick Bunkley New York Times
VW TDI sales sell ALL they can get!
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [ruking1]
by larsb
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Oct 02, 2008 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 11:19 am)
ruking1 says, "VW TDI sales sell ALL they can get! "
So would the Prius if 'Yota did not have a battery supply issue.
Prius Battery Shortage
There is no denying that the market for fuel-efficient cars is strong. If there were more TDIs and more Priuses available, the sales numbers for both those cars would shoot up.
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [larsb]
by ruking1
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Oct 02, 2008 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 02, 2008 12:09 pm)
According to the article you posted, Prius is posting even lower sales at a MINUS-37%. Diesels have NEVER had they kind of drop.
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [ruking1]
by larsb
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Oct 02, 2008 (2:39 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 2:34 pm)
That's because to have a sales DROP you must first have a sales PEAK.
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [larsb]
by ruking1
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Oct 02, 2008 (2:49 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 02, 2008 2:39 pm)
What can I say... YOU posted the article. Selling all you make is always preferable to coulda, woulda, shoulda, wanna. If I were a Prius buyer, I would be concerned about getting the "new batch" of batteries after the shortage.
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [ruking1]
by larsb
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Oct 02, 2008 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 2:49 pm)
VW August Sales Totals
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [larsb]
by ruking1
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Oct 02, 2008 (3:10 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 02, 2008 2:59 pm)
Per your VW posted article, their results are even more remarkable as VW posted a +2.9 INCREASE vs a Toyota, Ford, GM, DECREASE of MINUS -30%-37% (deltas of 32.9% to 39.9%) . Even Honda posted a loss of -24%!!? I would still be curious as to what % are diesels, as VW (the article you posted) does NOT break diesels out.
Moving to a separate topic, I have read the industry is on track to sell 14 M units this MY vs a more historic 16-17 M units !!!
My take: really it is a good time for higher mpg passenger diesels.
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [ruking1]
by kdhspyder
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Oct 02, 2008 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 2:49 pm)
What the heck are you talking about 'new batch'.. it's not like the old ones were sitting in some warehouse. They were being manufactured as fast as possible but demand outstripped capacity. In the future the capacity will be significantly larger.
Just for the unaware... model year changeover. Sept was the last month of the 2008s... the 2009s are arriving now - with a $500 price increase. Why ship lots of 2008s when the 2009s will bring in more money? Little details like this make for huge profits when applied across the entire product line and the entire world.
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