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Pro-Diesel organization says "Go Go Diesel !!!" by larsb
Sep 29, 2008 (9:54 am)
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More thus-far unfounded "yakking" about the supposed high demand for diesel cars in the USA
 
"The message is clear: the time for clean diesel is now," said Allen Schaeffer, executive director of the Diesel Technology Forum. "With only a few choices available to consumers, diesels have already dramatically cut energy consumption and reduced CO2 emissions. With more choices on the way, Americans will continue to benefit as we continue to introduce the public to this new generation of clean diesel cars and light truck choices."
 
Only half of those surveyed, for instance, believe diesel-powered vehicles get better gas mileage than gasoline-powered vehicles. New diesel technologies, in fact, get up to 40 percent better fuel efficiency.
 
For the survey, pollsters from Yankelovich Partners interviewed 1,003 Americans in the national sample and 403 adults in California between July 14 and 21 for the survey. The sampling error is 3.1 percent plus or minus.
 
"Most people are surprised to learn that diesel pickup trucks outsold hybrids 2.5 to 1 from 2003-2007 and saved 21 times more fuel than all hybrids combined," Schaeffer said.

 
Count me among the group who would be "surprised" by that statement. He's obviously not talking about in the USA - must be talking about worldwide.
 
We can rest assured, however, that if true, he forgot to mention that the pickups "out-polluted" the hybrids by huge amounts, too.
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Re: Diesel fuel EVEN MORE energy-efficient !!?!?!?!?!? [larsb] by houdini1
Sep 29, 2008 (5:56 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Sep 29, 2008 9:41 am)

There, that ought to make everyone happy....A diesel/electric hybrid !
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Re: Diesel fuel EVEN MORE energy-efficient !!?!?!?!?!? [houdini1] by cdnpinhead
Sep 29, 2008 (6:25 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Sep 29, 2008 5:56 pm)

Yeah, locomotives have been doing it for years. All they lack are the batteries.
 
They have the diesel/electric thing down & use regenerative braking. Let's see, they've been available & in increasing use since the early/mid '50's, so I guess the concept is only about 50 years "behind the times," as they used to say.
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Re: Diesel fuel EVEN MORE energy-efficient !!?!?!?!?!? [cdnpinhead] by kcram HOST
Sep 30, 2008 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Sep 29, 2008 6:25 pm)

Before the 50s! GM built diesel-electric buses for Public Service (NJ) back in 1940. Instead of a conventional transmission, the diesel engine generated electricity for the same "chopper" motors used on trolley buses. Essentially, the engine replaced the overhead wires and poles. The accelerator summoned more power from the engine which sent more electricity to the wheels.
 
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On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... by ruking1
Oct 02, 2008 (11:19 am)
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"GM sales fall 16% and that's the good news
 
FORD, CHRYSLER OFF 30%-PLUS"...
 
(on line version)
 
"Toyota, Ford, Chrysler's September sales each fall more than 30 percent"
 
link title
 
by Nick Bunkley New York Times
 
VW TDI sales sell ALL they can get!
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [ruking1] by larsb
Oct 02, 2008 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 11:19 am)

ruking1 says, "VW TDI sales sell ALL they can get! "
 
So would the Prius if 'Yota did not have a battery supply issue.
 
Prius Battery Shortage
 
There is no denying that the market for fuel-efficient cars is strong. If there were more TDIs and more Priuses available, the sales numbers for both those cars would shoot up.
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [larsb] by ruking1
Oct 02, 2008 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 02, 2008 12:09 pm)

According to the article you posted, Prius is posting even lower sales at a MINUS-37%. Diesels have NEVER had they kind of drop.
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [ruking1] by larsb
Oct 02, 2008 (2:39 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 2:34 pm)

That's because to have a sales DROP you must first have a sales PEAK.
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [larsb] by ruking1
Oct 02, 2008 (2:49 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 02, 2008 2:39 pm)

What can I say... YOU posted the article. Selling all you make is always preferable to coulda, woulda, shoulda, wanna. If I were a Prius buyer, I would be concerned about getting the "new batch" of batteries after the shortage.
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Re: On the other hand....gassers are not doing so well... [ruking1] by larsb
Oct 02, 2008 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 02, 2008 2:49 pm)

VW August Sales Totals

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