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Replying to: ruking1 (Sep 27, 2008 9:40 am) The World is awash with small-to-medium Diesels and we get 'em all here in Europe. We even get a diesel Cadillac, (albeit only the BLS which is just a re-bodied old Saab). Come on USA - get with the programme, (please note correct spelling  ). The orchard's full of low-hanging fruit. Just needs picking. I do like the idea of a proper GT car - a real Grand Tourer, not a hyperactive screamer - with a big diesel. I suspect that Audi will put it into production first with the R8 and we've already seen the prototype but a V8 Diesel Corvette or XKR or DB9 would be a hoot. Wouldn't be too surprised to see a Diesel Bentley appear at some stage, either. Now that would be ultra cool, IMO. 
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 26, 2008 3:36 pm) We've already gone over that Gary. Having problems remembering to take your memory pills? The "reason" diesel prices went are clear to anyone without an ingrained diesel bias. The "reason" prices are coming down now are just as clear. Apparently, "THEY" (whomever THEY are) are losing their ability to "keep diesel prices artificially high to keep diesel cars out of the country." Such drivel. Absolute drivel.
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Replying to: larsb (Sep 29, 2008 4:33 am) Speaking of which, How's Toto?
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 29, 2008 6:11 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Sep 29, 2008 6:47 am) 
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Replying to: ruking1 (Sep 29, 2008 6:51 am) Well, there ARE exceptions to every rule. Anyone who thinks there are "Anti-Diesel Ninjas" out there somewhere whispering in the ears of the regulators to "Kill The Diesel Cars" doesn't quite get it.
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Replying to: larsb (Sep 29, 2008 6:56 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Sep 29, 2008 6:58 am) Saying that puts you outside the group who understands the issue.
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Replying to: larsb (Sep 29, 2008 7:08 am) Let's put it another way. The slow leak of diesels into the "system" is threatening at whole complexes of different levels. |
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as noted several times previously herein. GM, Ford and Toyota are deliberately limiting production and sales here. However it has nothing to do with anti-diesel ninjas nor corrurpt agencies of our corrupt governmen nor some cabal of oil companies. The reason is a lot simpler than that... ...it's staring us back in the mirror every morning. WE the N American buying public are at fault!!! WE do not want our small compact vehicles to be anything more than low-priced basic econoboxs. WE do not want to pay a premium for fuel in order to save fuel. WE do not want advanced technology for saving fuel if we have to pay more for it. Hybrids have some success. Diesels have a ultra-loyal following. However Mr/Mrs Everyday Small Car Buyer doesn't want to spend $20000+ for a small econobox with expensive fuel efficient capabilities ( Mr ruking1 is a prime example in rejecting expensive hybrid tehcnnology for a $13000 Civic ). If the buyers are going to spend that much money they want a midsized auto. The GM and Ford and Toyota marketing types recognize this basic drive when buyers go to showrooms. The automakers must provide vehicles that the basic buyer will actually want to buy. Those would be Corollas and Civics and Cobalts and Focus', all basic gassers. That's what WE want them to build.
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