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8143 messages, Last post on Nov 27, 2009 at 12:10 PM
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Replying to: dworthen (Sep 26, 2008 1:20 pm) I think you are just about spot on. Otherwise why did the price of diesel start going up right in line with VW, MB & BMW launching 50 state diesels? Alternative biodiesel fuel will become feasible and practical. The argument is they have not done that to ethanol. Well they sure did in the 1980s with sugar ethanol that is a threat to fossil fuel. Not to corn ethanol. That is a BIG money maker for the oil companies. It takes at least as much fossil energy to grow and distill corn ethanol as you get BTUs in return. Honda may still be trying to get 50 state approval. I thought they had it a year ago.
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Sep 26, 2008 4:49 am) Is there any way that I can take that as a compliment? "Looks like the hot ticket is to drive a fully-loaded class 8 truck (80,000 lbs) that gets 7 mpg." It is the hot ticket if you want to move 60,000 pounds. It's none of my business how much work you want to do with your vehicle. That's for the government to dictate, apparently, by regulating fuel economy instead of fuel efficiency. A class 8 diesel is an efficient way of doing it though. You won't find any class 8s with spark ignition engines. "Next stop -- freight trains." Correct. Hybrid-diesel technology, and the most fuel efficient form of transportation on Earth. Won't find any SI engines there, either. |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Sep 26, 2008 11:42 am) ..."The premium V-8 diesel engine is expected to deliver class-leading refinement, horsepower and torque and fulfill multiple vehicle applications (bold and larger font, my sic) with ratings in excess of 310 horsepower and 520 lb-ft of torque. For my .02 cents killer applications would be: 1. rear wheel drive Cadillac turbo diesel touring car 2. twin turbo diesel Corvette (touring edition. (45-70 mpg as per an old Larsb post) GM (Opel, Saab, Vauxhall and GMDAT ) currently offers 17 diesel engine variants in 45 vehicle lines around the world. GM sells more than one million diesel engines annually, with products that offer a range of choices from the 1.3L four-cylinder diesel engine sold in the Opel Agila and Corsa, up to the 6.6L V-8 Duramax diesel sold in full-size vans, heavy duty pickups and medium duty trucks in the U.S.".. link title Not to get excessively wordy, but if they (Congress on through the food/logistical chain) really plan to implement less dependence on foreign oil, the current refining technology proffers a mathmatical certainty : that IF we continue to use RUG to PUG, D#2 HAS to be produced. (actually it is vice versa) (see eia.gov, what is in a barrel of oil) In the very unlikely case of being able to EXPORT most of US domestic oil production, we would be in the opposite sides of the ledger, in being able to EXPORT D2 to European markets !! ( 98% US passenger vehicle fleet uses RUG to PUG, less than 49% European passenger vehicle fleet uses RUG to PUG)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Sep 27, 2008 9:40 am) The World is awash with small-to-medium Diesels and we get 'em all here in Europe. We even get a diesel Cadillac, (albeit only the BLS which is just a re-bodied old Saab). Come on USA - get with the programme, (please note correct spelling  ). The orchard's full of low-hanging fruit. Just needs picking. I do like the idea of a proper GT car - a real Grand Tourer, not a hyperactive screamer - with a big diesel. I suspect that Audi will put it into production first with the R8 and we've already seen the prototype but a V8 Diesel Corvette or XKR or DB9 would be a hoot. Wouldn't be too surprised to see a Diesel Bentley appear at some stage, either. Now that would be ultra cool, IMO. 
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 26, 2008 3:36 pm) We've already gone over that Gary. Having problems remembering to take your memory pills? The "reason" diesel prices went are clear to anyone without an ingrained diesel bias. The "reason" prices are coming down now are just as clear. Apparently, "THEY" (whomever THEY are) are losing their ability to "keep diesel prices artificially high to keep diesel cars out of the country." Such drivel. Absolute drivel.
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Replying to: larsb (Sep 29, 2008 4:33 am) Speaking of which, How's Toto?
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 29, 2008 6:11 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Sep 29, 2008 6:47 am) 
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Replying to: ruking1 (Sep 29, 2008 6:51 am) Well, there ARE exceptions to every rule. Anyone who thinks there are "Anti-Diesel Ninjas" out there somewhere whispering in the ears of the regulators to "Kill The Diesel Cars" doesn't quite get it.
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Replying to: larsb (Sep 29, 2008 6:56 am)
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