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Re: USE an alternative fuel...become a federal felon... [larsb] by gagrice
Jul 02, 2008 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 02, 2008 9:42 am)

I am not sure of what you are arguing. Are you saying that cooking oil is more polluting than diesel? Is biodiesel now illegal? It should be clear to the casual observer the only thing that was in question was the TAX on using cooking oil. There are hundreds of people mixing their own. Making biodiesel out of cooking oil. I say good for them. They are doing more to cut our dependence on foreign oil than anyone using gas or diesel in their vehicles. They are for SURE emitting less GHG. You can argue till you are blue in the face. IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY.
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Re: USE an alternative fuel...become a federal felon... [gagrice] by ruking1
Jul 02, 2008 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 02, 2008 9:44 am)

Red dyed diesel has a life of its own.
 
In "theory" it sells sans Fed/State taxes.
 
Now in CA it is again in theory, LSD. (500 ppm)
 
BUT hysterically LSD has been 140 ppm in CA.
 
SO IF it reverts to the broader standard (LSD=500 ppm) , red dyed diesel is now actually higher in sulfur!!! So really EPA/CARB has in effect made the standard many times more pollutive, 3.57 x MORE even as they say the standards are stricter!!! PAR for the COURSE I WOULD SAY!?
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Re: USE an alternative fuel...become a federal felon... [gagrice] by larsb
Jul 02, 2008 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 02, 2008 9:50 am)

I'm merely agreeing with the EPA lady who said "we have not certified it as a fuel" and once they DO, then the laws can be changed to make it legal to use.
 
How the guvmint wants to go about collecting taxes on it is another issue.
 
It is NEVER all about the money when it comes to the EPA. The EPA is tasked with keeping us safe from environmental dangers - not making money.
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Honda Accord Diesel? by guntherhops
Jul 02, 2008 (9:57 am)
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Any recent news about when we might see an Accord Diesel? Did Honda's decision to put the diesel in an Acura delay this?
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Re: USE an alternative fuel...become a federal felon... [gagrice] by larsb
Jul 02, 2008 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 02, 2008 9:38 am)

A-Ha !! Here is my point, made by someone other than myself, that the EPA in Hawaii is doing things that matter about the ENVIRONMENT an not just about money !!! Thank you !!! Case Closed.
 
EPA working to keep Hawaii air CLEAN
 
EPA, partners announce diesel vehicle retrofit program: City and County of Honolulu, Grace Pacific "cleaner" vehicles to be demonstrated
HONOLULU th Today at the City and County of Honolulu's Alapai Bus Facility, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's Pacific Southwest Region Air Division Director Deborah Jordan announced accomplishments of a diesel engine retrofit program.
 
(Media-Newswire.com) - HONOLULU – Today at the City and County of Honolulu’s Alapai Bus Facility, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s Pacific Southwest Region Air Division Director Deborah Jordan announced accomplishments of a diesel engine retrofit program.
 
The diesel engine retrofit program’s goal is to reduce diesel air emissions from vehicles and engines for both highway and non-road vehicles operated by public and private organizations, including the City and County of Honolulu, the Board of Water Supply, the state Department of Transportation, Grace Pacific Corp., and Aiwohi Brothers.
 
“Even in clean areas, exposure to diesel emissions can lead to chronic respiratory problems and premature death,” said Jordan. “I congratulate the City and County of Honolulu, Grace Pacific, the state of Hawaii, and the many other partners for showing true leadership in this field and encouraging retrofits across the state.”
 
The program specifically identified fleets that could meet retrofit requirements, profiled the equipment needed, developed a purchasing process for the parts and equipment, and provided training for installation and maintenance to continue the program. Over 75 vehicle retrofits have been installed with more planned in the coming years.
 
“Honolulu is a city blessed with excellent air quality,” said City and County of Honolulu Mayor Mufi Hannemann. “As the Brookings Institute recently reported, Honolulu has the smallest carbon footprint of any major American city. We can, however, and we must do more to reduce the harmful emissions from our vehicles. We pride ourselves on leading by example, and the diesel retrofit program demonstrates our commitment to being part of a solution along with our partner at the federal level, the Environmental Protection Agency. Public health and safety is a mayor’s highest priority, and the diesel retrofit program will help reduce the health risks to our island’s residents.”
 
The $800,000 diesel retrofit program is funded from a supplemental environmental project agreed to by Chevron U.S.A., Inc., as part of a settlement for enforcement actions. This included $300,000 from an action brought by the EPA and $500,000 from an action brought by the Hawaii Department of Health.
 
The EPA also announced that the Hawaii Department of Health’s Clean Air Branch will participate in the State Clean Diesel Grant Program to achieve significant reductions in diesel emissions. The effort, which helps states build programs to reduce diesel emissions, is part of the National Clean Diesel Campaign and the West Coast Collaborative, which grant funds to eligible partners for building diesel emission reduction programs across the country to improve air quality and protect public health.

 
So don't try to tell me AGAIN that it is all about the money. That is total hogwashimuss maximus.
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Re: Honda Accord Diesel? [guntherhops] by ruking1
Jul 02, 2008 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: guntherhops (Jul 02, 2008 9:57 am)

The switch to Turbo diesel 2009 Acura TSX is the current plan.
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Diesel edumacation has a way to go by larsb
Jul 02, 2008 (10:33 am)
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Apparently, diesel education in this country still has as far to go as I already knew it did:
 
Diesel desire lacking
 
DETROIT (AP) - A report out today says U.S. consumers are showing more interest in hybrid technology despite the higher price tag.
 
The report from J.D. Power and Associates says 72% of recent car buyers are interested in getting a hybrid for their next vehicle.
 
That's up from 58% of consumers in 2005.
 
But once the average $5,000 price differential for a hybrid was revealed, just 46% say they're still interested.
 
By comparison, consumers remain skeptical of clean diesel technology, which can improve fuel economy by 30% over traditional engines but has a lower premium of $1,800.
 
Just 37% say they're interested in the technology.
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Re: Diesel edumacation has a way to go [larsb] by ruking1
Jul 02, 2008 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 02, 2008 10:33 am)

I think the regulatory systems just hope diesel will go away. So the truth is diesel education is really moot. I mean how many received SUV education and the suv population grew to 12% of the passenger vehicle fleet?
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Re: Diesel edumacation has a way to go [ruking1] by larsb
Jul 02, 2008 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 02, 2008 10:53 am)

We all wish "diesel education" were moot, but it's not.
 
If people knew that the new clean diesels can perform mostly equal to the hybrids, and not stink, and not have reliability problems, and be available to every buyer in every state, do you still think there would be twice the interest in hybrid as there is in diesel?
 
The answer, of course, is no frickin' way !!
 
It requires no "re-education" to buy a gas SUV. To convince people that "these are not your Father's diesels" is a tough task.
 
We all on this board hope the education goes well.

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