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Re: BOAT ANCHORS [coontie66] by ruking1
Jul 02, 2008 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: coontie66 (Jul 02, 2008 4:55 am)

This is really a series of IF's, but a no brainer would be a (GM product) Buick TDI, If GM could use/develop/vend a good turbo diesel engine, IF 20-40 % better mpg (could be MATED/ engineered) if, if, if, THEN a to 38 to 45 mpg Buick TDI would literally be a stormer. The additional killer application is the Buick has been a so called "big car". What is wrong with a big car meeting /exceeding the 2012 35 mpgI and early? I know for example an MB 320 (V-6 TDI) ( that a guru I trust with my diesel maintenance) runs 38 mpg 80 mph.
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by jkinzel
Jul 02, 2008 (8:53 am)
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Gary and ruking, Thought I would pass this along. Sounds like the TDI's are going to be flying off the shelves in CA, as we expected.
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.f09ff51/31222
 
The Jetta TDI is on its way. Every dealer has already received a demo car - sedan with DSG. I took it home for a day, and I got 40 MPG for mixed city/freeway ride home, 12 miles commute.
Right now I am pre-selling my allocation for the next 6 months - I am at the only dealership in SF Bay Area that doesn't markup to cars, so the business is going to be very good!
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Re: [jkinzel] by ruking1
Jul 02, 2008 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jul 02, 2008 8:53 am)

I think you are correct!! I called the sales manager at the local VW dealer and have yet to receive a return call. I did leave a message saying I was interested in a test drive of the new 2009 TDI. Perhaps that was code for pick a numba and stop bothering me.
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Re: USE an alternative fuel...become a federal felon... [larsb] by jkinzel
Jul 02, 2008 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 02, 2008 6:54 am)

Its still "all about the money".
 
Our Government is losing its status as a “Government” it is now more of a business; it has to make money to survive. Even our military is more of a business than military force. I believe Eisenhower referred to it as the “military industrial complex”.
 
It’s all about the money and you can see that when they feel like they might take a $ loss. People are taking something that would go into a land fill and pollute and using it reduce fuel dependency and the government is screwing them for it because they are not getting their share of the $$.
 
Why is the Government or the oil companies not taking this cooking oil and putting it to use? Everyone would win. The waste would stay out of the landfills, the oil would be used, quality controle ensured and the gov. would get it’s taxes.
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Re: USE an alternative fuel...become a federal felon... [jkinzel] by larsb
Jul 02, 2008 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jul 02, 2008 9:19 am)

jkinzel says, "Why is the Government or the oil companies not taking this cooking oil and putting it to use? Everyone would win. The waste would stay out of the landfills, the oil would be used, quality controle ensured and the gov. would get it’s taxes."
 
The same reason EVs are not the standard. Just because something is a "better idea" does not mean it will automagically succeed in the broad marketplace.
 
Who is going to collect fryer oil from every fast food place in the country, filter it, and transport it to a pump near you? And who is expected to handle all the veggie oil conversions? You know that could NEVER happen on a large scale. Has it happened in any country in the world yet?
 
First of all, diesel engines and cars have to become a big hit in the USA and take at least 30% of the marketplace. At that point, Joe Public might have enough diesel knowledge to say "veggie oil delivered by the guvmint is a good idea."
 
It's never "all about the money" when it comes to the environmental protection the EPA is chartered to provide us.
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Re: USE an alternative fuel...become a federal felon... [jkinzel] by gagrice
Jul 02, 2008 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jul 02, 2008 9:19 am)

I don't see anyway that the government can control the flow of used cooking oil. Where people make a mistake is telling others about their windfall. Then it gets on TV and the government realizes we have not taxed that oil enough. They taxed it several times before some enterprising person used it in their old Mercedes. They want to get one last dig into our pockets. Don't think of government as providing services, they are in the business of extracting taxes.
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Re: USE an alternative fuel...become a federal felon... [gagrice] by ruking1
Jul 02, 2008 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 02, 2008 9:33 am)

While I personally have never experienced this, others have posted they have been stopped for a regular " nazi est" shake down for "red dyed" diesel fuel.
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Re: USE an alternative fuel...become a federal felon... [larsb] by gagrice
Jul 02, 2008 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 02, 2008 9:26 am)

Pacific Biodiesel in Hawaii has a THRIVING business keeping grease and cooking oil from messing up their landfill. I have provided dozens of businesses in Oregon that operate their fleets of DIESELs on used cooking oil. They are all above board and legal. So the argument on emissions is without merit. It is PURELY someone getting by without paying their fair share of road tax. Kind of like all those driving hybrids. Before EVs or PHEVs will ever be allowed on the highways in large numbers they will figure out how to tax by the mile. The only fair highway tax.
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Why do the extract taxes? by larsb
Jul 02, 2008 (9:39 am)
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Gary, why are we taxed?
 
It's not to make the guvmint rich mi amigo.
 
It's to provide EXACTLY those services of which you speak. No tax collected, no services can be provided.
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Re: USE an alternative fuel...become a federal felon... [gagrice] by larsb
Jul 02, 2008 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 02, 2008 9:38 am)

Gary say, "So the argument on emissions is without merit."
 
Falsely stated. The EPA cannot just randomly say "put any kind of fuel you want in any kind of engine you want." They would be violating the law. There are laws behind what the EPA is required to do. They aren't just doing it for fun.

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