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Re: 2009 Jetta TDI [watkinst] by winter2
Jun 30, 2008 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: watkinst (Jun 30, 2008 2:37 pm)

My Jeep Liberty/Cherokee CRD is no flyweight at 4306 lbs (1954 kg) empty. I regularly get 30 to 31 MPG on long road trips.
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Re: 2009 Jetta TDI [winter2] by ruking1
Jun 30, 2008 (4:29 pm)
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Replying to: winter2 (Jun 30, 2008 3:00 pm)

Indeed I think the whole weight issue of the SUV segments (of which TLC's belong 80's app 4800#) given forward esculating fuel cost situations, might be revisited. When you combine that with good diesel engines and killer transmissions, I think the mpg will improve. The alternative is "DIE."
 
I think the Liberty/Cherokee CRD (30-31 mpg) might be the standard bearer going forward!!
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BOAT ANCHORS by hypnosis44
Jun 30, 2008 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: peachtree103 (Jun 30, 2008 11:08 am)

"When Bob Lutz is talking about putting a turbo 4 in Buicks and the Camaro, (where a diesel would work so much better) hell has probably already frozen over."
 
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I think he would rather sell them as turbo charged gas vehicles than have to use them as diesel engined boat anchors.
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Re: BOAT ANCHORS [hypnosis44] by ruking1
Jul 01, 2008 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: hypnosis44 (Jun 30, 2008 7:03 pm)

This might be totally off topic but Buicks and Camaros have gotten bad raps. (gasser) Buick has been ( literally for decades) one of the BEST GM brands: in terms of reliability, durability, etc. They might not be the pc correct demographic, but in the forementioned terms, it would be a severe mistake to AXE this brand. Both would benefit from V4-V8 turbo diesels (other configurations also).
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Re: BOAT ANCHORS [hypnosis44] by peachtree103
Jul 01, 2008 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: hypnosis44 (Jun 30, 2008 7:03 pm)

I have no doubt Lutz would rather see that.
 
But people like their V-8 engines for torque, and a 6 cyl diesel would replicate what Buick and Camaro drivers are looking for a lot more closely than a turbo 4, with the same or better resulting fuel economy.
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2009 MB diesel SUV by larsb
Jul 01, 2008 (2:53 pm)
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For Those Who've Got The Bux - We Salute You !!!
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Re: 2009 Jetta TDI [winter2] by roland3
Jul 01, 2008 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: winter2 (Jun 30, 2008 3:00 pm)

... Wife's '06, Liberty, V~6, gasser is lucky to get 20 MPG now that it's broke-in. Kind of a shock as her previous GrandAm, 4 cyl Ecotec would get 28 on the same trips. Of course the Liberty is pushing a lot of air out of place; however pretty good room considering the outside dimensions.
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Name change by avalon02wh
Jul 01, 2008 (3:59 pm)
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I propose we change the name of the forum to "Dimethyl Ether in the News". China plans to use it in place of diesel, I'm sure everyone else will follow.
 
DME has a higher cetane number and looks to be a clean burning fuel. Mix it with some LPG and it works in petrol engines too. DME can be created from coal, natural gas or biomass.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyl_ether
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Demand for diesel going up by avalon02wh
Jul 01, 2008 (6:07 pm)
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'Global oil demand is expected to increase to 94.14 million bpd in 2013 from an estimated 86.87 million bpd this year and will be heavily biased to middle distillates, such as diesel, heating oil and jet fuel, the IEA said.....Europe is already importing such fuels in large volumes and North American distillate supplies are likely to fall short of demand growth in a short term, IEA said."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080701.wrefineries0701/BNSt- ory/Business
 
If the IEA is correct diesel prices would stay at current levels or increase but not drop. I'm not sure the IEA has all the facts they need to make the call. I suspect there are a lot of internal plans by refineries to increase diesel production that the IEA is not aware of. Still, it makes a person wonder if it isn't best to hold off switching to a diesel until things become more clear.
 
As time goes on the percentage of diesels in the European fleet continue to increase. For every 100 cars sold in Europe, about 55 are diesel. It is likely they are replacing 15+ year old cars, 90% of which are gassers. This will continue to increase demand for diesel and keep prices high.
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Re: Demand for diesel going up [avalon02wh] by gagrice
Jul 01, 2008 (8:12 pm)
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 01, 2008 6:07 pm)

Still, it makes a person wonder if it isn't best to hold off switching to a diesel until things become more clear.
 
Where is your gambling spirit man? I bought the 05 Passat TDI in April of 2005 when diesel in Oregon was about 30 cents more than regular. A year later in May of 06 gas was over $3 and diesel was $2.49. I made $3,000 over what I bought the car new for. If diesel holds at these prices a person should get a good buy on a diesel vehicle. Then when the price rolls over you laugh all the way to the bank. If not it will still be a superior vehicle to anything with a gas engine. Win Win!!
 
That and the simple fact is ethanol will NEVER replace gas. There are at least 4 good shots at distillate replacements in the not too distant future. Life is a gamble.

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