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Re: 2009 Jetta TDI [watkinst]
by ruking1
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Jun 30, 2008 (2:49 pm)
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Replying to: watkinst (Jun 30, 2008 2:37 pm)
All the more reason to have MORE diesel models made and brought to market by more oems.
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- #6226 of 8147
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Re: 2009 Jetta TDI [watkinst]
by ruking1
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Jun 30, 2008 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: watkinst (Jun 30, 2008 2:37 pm)
..."80 series Toyota Land Cruiser US I get 12mpg - same truck in Tanzania runing an old school turbo diesel gets 24mpg US"...
Indeed that is fully 50% better!!! If we were able to CUT 50% of the demand, we'd be down to less than 10% IMPORTED oil.
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Re: 2009 Jetta TDI [watkinst]
by winter2
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Jun 30, 2008 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: watkinst (Jun 30, 2008 2:37 pm)
My Jeep Liberty/Cherokee CRD is no flyweight at 4306 lbs (1954 kg) empty. I regularly get 30 to 31 MPG on long road trips.
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- #6228 of 8147
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Re: 2009 Jetta TDI [winter2]
by ruking1
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Jun 30, 2008 (4:29 pm)
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Replying to: winter2 (Jun 30, 2008 3:00 pm)
Indeed I think the whole weight issue of the SUV segments (of which TLC's belong 80's app 4800#) given forward esculating fuel cost situations, might be revisited. When you combine that with good diesel engines and killer transmissions, I think the mpg will improve. The alternative is "DIE."
I think the Liberty/Cherokee CRD ( 30-31 mpg) might be the standard bearer going forward!!
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- #6229 of 8147
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BOAT ANCHORS
by hypnosis44
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Jun 30, 2008 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: peachtree103 (Jun 30, 2008 11:08 am)
"When Bob Lutz is talking about putting a turbo 4 in Buicks and the Camaro, (where a diesel would work so much better) hell has probably already frozen over."
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I think he would rather sell them as turbo charged gas vehicles than have to use them as diesel engined boat anchors.
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- #6230 of 8147
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Re: BOAT ANCHORS [hypnosis44]
by ruking1
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Jul 01, 2008 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: hypnosis44 (Jun 30, 2008 7:03 pm)
This might be totally off topic but Buicks and Camaros have gotten bad raps. (gasser) Buick has been ( literally for decades) one of the BEST GM brands: in terms of reliability, durability, etc. They might not be the pc correct demographic, but in the forementioned terms, it would be a severe mistake to AXE this brand. Both would benefit from V4-V8 turbo diesels (other configurations also).
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Re: BOAT ANCHORS [hypnosis44]
by peachtree103
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Jul 01, 2008 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: hypnosis44 (Jun 30, 2008 7:03 pm)
I have no doubt Lutz would rather see that.
But people like their V-8 engines for torque, and a 6 cyl diesel would replicate what Buick and Camaro drivers are looking for a lot more closely than a turbo 4, with the same or better resulting fuel economy.
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- #6232 of 8147
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2009 MB diesel SUV
by larsb
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Jul 01, 2008 (2:53 pm)
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For Those Who've Got The Bux - We Salute You !!!
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Re: 2009 Jetta TDI [winter2]
by roland3
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Jul 01, 2008 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: winter2 (Jun 30, 2008 3:00 pm)
... Wife's '06, Liberty, V~6, gasser is lucky to get 20 MPG now that it's broke-in. Kind of a shock as her previous GrandAm, 4 cyl Ecotec would get 28 on the same trips. Of course the Liberty is pushing a lot of air out of place; however pretty good room considering the outside dimensions.
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- #6234 of 8147
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Name change
by avalon02wh
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Jul 01, 2008 (3:59 pm)
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I propose we change the name of the forum to "Dimethyl Ether in the News". China plans to use it in place of diesel, I'm sure everyone else will follow.
DME has a higher cetane number and looks to be a clean burning fuel. Mix it with some LPG and it works in petrol engines too. DME can be created from coal, natural gas or biomass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyl_ether
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