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Re: ... Are We all Drinking CARB Cool-Aid ??? [peachtree103] by jkinzel
Jun 29, 2008 (8:07 pm)
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Replying to: peachtree103 (Jun 29, 2008 7:14 pm)

Thanks for the link. It doesn’t make sense to give the Ranger the boot when everyone is looking for smaller more fuel efficient transportation.
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Re: ... Are We all Drinking CARB Cool-Aid ??? [jkinzel] by peachtree103
Jun 30, 2008 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 29, 2008 8:07 pm)

You're welcome.
 
I think it is safe to assume all "final" decisions about upcoming product offerings are suspect. All the domestics and even Toyota are scrambling to change their mix. When Bob Lutz is talking about putting a turbo 4 in Buicks and the Camaro, (where a diesel would work so much better) hell has probably already frozen over.
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Re: 2009 Jetta TDI [winter2] by watkinst
Jun 30, 2008 (2:37 pm)
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Replying to: winter2 (Jun 29, 2008 10:58 am)

80 series Toyota Land Cruiser US I get 12mpg - same truck in Tanzania runing an old school turbo diesel gets 24mpg US.
 
The full size trucks will never get 30mpg US but they can see a big bump in Milege with diesel use.
 
Though till now fuel consumption hasn't been a big deal so consumers bought the cheaper gas version over the diesel version in the lighter duty trucks.
 
What it really comes down to is US consumers buying diesel cars other wise they won't build them. VW is a poor diesel example as VW has a reputation and no matter what sort of car they offer only a certain percentage of shoppers will consider them. I've owned VW's and own a recent one now "it went to the shop today" again.. I won't own another VW the rest of my life.
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Re: 2009 Jetta TDI [watkinst] by ruking1
Jun 30, 2008 (2:49 pm)
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Replying to: watkinst (Jun 30, 2008 2:37 pm)

All the more reason to have MORE diesel models made and brought to market by more oems.
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Re: 2009 Jetta TDI [watkinst] by ruking1
Jun 30, 2008 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: watkinst (Jun 30, 2008 2:37 pm)

..."80 series Toyota Land Cruiser US I get 12mpg - same truck in Tanzania runing an old school turbo diesel gets 24mpg US"...
 
Indeed that is fully 50% better!!! If we were able to CUT 50% of the demand, we'd be down to less than 10% IMPORTED oil.
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Re: 2009 Jetta TDI [watkinst] by winter2
Jun 30, 2008 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: watkinst (Jun 30, 2008 2:37 pm)

My Jeep Liberty/Cherokee CRD is no flyweight at 4306 lbs (1954 kg) empty. I regularly get 30 to 31 MPG on long road trips.
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Re: 2009 Jetta TDI [winter2] by ruking1
Jun 30, 2008 (4:29 pm)
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Replying to: winter2 (Jun 30, 2008 3:00 pm)

Indeed I think the whole weight issue of the SUV segments (of which TLC's belong 80's app 4800#) given forward esculating fuel cost situations, might be revisited. When you combine that with good diesel engines and killer transmissions, I think the mpg will improve. The alternative is "DIE."
 
I think the Liberty/Cherokee CRD (30-31 mpg) might be the standard bearer going forward!!
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BOAT ANCHORS by hypnosis44
Jun 30, 2008 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: peachtree103 (Jun 30, 2008 11:08 am)

"When Bob Lutz is talking about putting a turbo 4 in Buicks and the Camaro, (where a diesel would work so much better) hell has probably already frozen over."
 
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I think he would rather sell them as turbo charged gas vehicles than have to use them as diesel engined boat anchors.
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Re: BOAT ANCHORS [hypnosis44] by ruking1
Jul 01, 2008 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: hypnosis44 (Jun 30, 2008 7:03 pm)

This might be totally off topic but Buicks and Camaros have gotten bad raps. (gasser) Buick has been ( literally for decades) one of the BEST GM brands: in terms of reliability, durability, etc. They might not be the pc correct demographic, but in the forementioned terms, it would be a severe mistake to AXE this brand. Both would benefit from V4-V8 turbo diesels (other configurations also).
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Re: BOAT ANCHORS [hypnosis44] by peachtree103
Jul 01, 2008 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: hypnosis44 (Jun 30, 2008 7:03 pm)

I have no doubt Lutz would rather see that.
 
But people like their V-8 engines for torque, and a 6 cyl diesel would replicate what Buick and Camaro drivers are looking for a lot more closely than a turbo 4, with the same or better resulting fuel economy.

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