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You are in the Diesels Forum. Your Host is kcram
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Replying to: kcram (Jun 29, 2008 4:11 pm) Most of the American public has a problem. They see the cost of diesel fuel being higher than that of gasoline and they stop there never bothering to investigate further. Most never bother to do the math showing them that the cost per mile for diesel is significantly less than that for a gasser. I have had numerous discussions with people and they cannot see past the price difference even when you show that diesel is still cheaper to run. If said diesel powered Compass or Caliber were to come to the United States, my wife would be in one tomorrow. I will continue with my Jeep Liberty CRD. Considering sixty-six miles per gallon, who would need a Prius?
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Replying to: winter2 (Jun 29, 2008 5:13 pm) Yes. Yes, they do. And here we are. I drove diesel vehicles in Europe seven years ago that aren't here yet, but got 40+ mpg. For whatever reason, California & a few other uber-green states have made the U.S. the diesel car industry what it is today. Enjoy. |
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 29, 2008 4:05 pm) http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-ranger-escapes-axe-thanks-to-high-gas-prices.ht- ml
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Replying to: peachtree103 (Jun 29, 2008 7:14 pm)
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 29, 2008 8:07 pm) I think it is safe to assume all "final" decisions about upcoming product offerings are suspect. All the domestics and even Toyota are scrambling to change their mix. When Bob Lutz is talking about putting a turbo 4 in Buicks and the Camaro, (where a diesel would work so much better) hell has probably already frozen over.
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Replying to: winter2 (Jun 29, 2008 10:58 am) The full size trucks will never get 30mpg US but they can see a big bump in Milege with diesel use. Though till now fuel consumption hasn't been a big deal so consumers bought the cheaper gas version over the diesel version in the lighter duty trucks. What it really comes down to is US consumers buying diesel cars other wise they won't build them. VW is a poor diesel example as VW has a reputation and no matter what sort of car they offer only a certain percentage of shoppers will consider them. I've owned VW's and own a recent one now "it went to the shop today" again.. I won't own another VW the rest of my life. |
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Replying to: watkinst (Jun 30, 2008 2:37 pm) |
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Replying to: watkinst (Jun 30, 2008 2:37 pm) Indeed that is fully 50% better!!! If we were able to CUT 50% of the demand, we'd be down to less than 10% IMPORTED oil. |
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Replying to: watkinst (Jun 30, 2008 2:37 pm)
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Replying to: winter2 (Jun 30, 2008 3:00 pm)  4800#) given forward esculating fuel cost situations, might be revisited. When you combine that with good diesel engines and killer transmissions, I think the mpg will improve. The alternative is "DIE." I think the Liberty/Cherokee CRD ( 30-31 mpg) might be the standard bearer going forward!!
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