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8129 messages, Last post on Nov 08, 2009 at 4:53 PM
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Replying to: shipo (May 07, 2008 8:36 am) the real issue is that the Jetta is being built in the Pueblo, Mexico factory which means it will be plauged with the same quality problems as the rest of the VWs that come from Mexico there is NO cost ebenfit to buying this hunk of junk 
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Replying to: brakvica (Jun 28, 2008 10:56 am) half of my 4 Un-Clean TDIs (03, 05, 06, 06) were built in mexico and they are awesome with regard to quality. New Beetle had a couple of tough months as dealer searched for a water leak, but that was the only annoying reliability issue. So all those VWs have been reliable, but I have not driven one past 100K yet. |
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Replying to: brakvica (Jun 28, 2008 10:56 am) Today in CA diesel is only 7% higher than regular unleaded. Not sure where you are at. You can check here and see the difference. That makes the VW TDI are real bargain. The TDI gets 25% better hwy mileage than the premium burning gas Sportwagon. With premium about the same as diesel, it is advantage diesel big time. If you have not owned a VW TDI in the last few years you should do yourself a favor and try one. The competition will seem so blah after you do.. I have and want another one.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 28, 2008 12:25 pm) $4.53 for RUG plus 35% = $6.11. Diesel would have to be $6.11 a gallon to make the same value as RUG at $4.53 Gary, why did you send all this heat up here? It's 1:45 PM and 82 degrees outside, I'm dying. My guess it will be close to 90 by 5:00
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 28, 2008 12:48 pm) |
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Replying to: highmiler650 (Jun 27, 2008 4:39 pm) kcram - Pickups Host
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Replying to: kcram (Jun 28, 2008 5:19 pm) I will give you that to a point. I will give you a 50% drop is the average suburb guy buying a full size pick-up. He goes from a F-150 to a Ranger. Let’s put a 2.5L or a 3.0L diesel in a Ranger. I know you can get 35 + MPG out of that. Still plenty of power and good MPG. And it won’t be rocket science either, they are all over the world except…..yep, you guessed right, the USA.
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Replying to: brakvica (Jun 28, 2008 10:56 am) So at 4.91 D2 and 4.53 RUG /29/40, 26/40 = D2 range per mile driven of 16.9 cents-12.3 cents RUG range per mile driven of 17.4 cents-13.3 cents or 2.88% to 7.5% MORE. I am ok with others paying more! No issues with the Mexican built Jetta after 108,000 miles. Of course both are in a longer mileage race to a min of 450,000 miles and hopefully to 1,000,000 miles. |
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Replying to: kcram (Jun 28, 2008 5:19 pm)  25 mpg would literally be a 36% increase!! So if the goal is to DECREASE fuel consumption, this would be a HUGE step in the right direction, unless of course the real goal is to get P/U trucks, etc, etc, OFF the roads. My take is there will always be a core of folks who will have those needs/wants and will pay the freight accordingly. Indeed the SUV population is 12% and probably shrinking- clearly a minority position getting... SMALLER!! If I had need/want for one to more of those segments, 36% better mpg would be an absolute NO brainer. Those that do not want to buy diesel can and do buy gasser. All they have to do is offer good (diesel) products folks want to buy. Diesels longevity, better drive ability etc would be added advantages. Diesel p/u, suv's, minivans, etc trucks would literally revolutionize these segments. Perhaps that is one strong reason why the logistics system is resisting the change to D2.
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Replying to: brakvica (Jun 28, 2008 10:56 am) I buy my diesel at several different places and the price disparity between RUG and D#2 is less than 15%. In looking at the EPA website showing fuel economy for various vehicles, I compared my 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD to the 2005 Jeep Liberty with the 3.7 L V-6. Overall 23.8 for the CRD versus 14.8 for the gasser or about a 57% improvement in FE for the diesel. On long trips I regularly get 31 MPG with my CRD and back and forth to work in metro D.C. rush hour I average 23.1 MPG. My rush hour commuting FE is better than the highway FE for the V-6 gasser. https://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList2&make=Jeep&model=Libert- y/Cherokee%204WD |
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