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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 27, 2008 7:44 pm) The 5 cylinder diesel in my Mercedes Sprinter was a great engine. It pulled that 8500 lb RV around up and down hills with ease. It was also rated to tow 5k lbs. If they put that engine in a regular van or 1/2 ton PU it should get 35 MPG out on the highway. It is the mentality in the auto industry that we either have to have a vehicle that is fast or we are going to tow a 10,000 lb trailer. Most people just need to haul a few cement blocks, bags of concrete and sheets of plywood. The new Sprinter has the V6 Mercedes diesel and the mileage dropped from 25 MPG to under 20 MPG. We sure are making progress in this country. It will be interesting when the CAFE mandates run up against the EPA/CARB wall of worthless regulations. |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 27, 2008 5:48 am) Want some CO2 examples ? o Audi A4 3.2 V6 Quattro = 250 o Audi A4 3.0 TDi Quattro = 204 o Audi RS4 V8 Quattro = 324 o BMW 335i = 231 o BMW 335d = 200 o Lambo Murcielago = 400 o Mini 1.6 D Cooper = 118 o Mini Cooper S = 164 o VW Jetta 2.0 TDi 140 = 148 o VW Jetta 2.0 TFSI 200 = 189 new TFSI's are getting pretty clean. o VW Polo 1.4 TDi Bluemotion = 99 (non-Bluemotion = 119) o Volvo S80 D5 AWD = 182 o Volvo S80 4.4 V8 = 294 o Audi Q7 4.2 V8 FSi = 326 o Audi Q7 4.2 V8 TDi = 294 o Cadillac CTS 2.8 V6 = 278 o Chrysler 300C 3.0 V6 CRD = 215 o Chrysler 300C 5.7 V8 Hemi = 287 o Chrysler PT Cruiser 2.2 CRD = 185 o Chrysler PT Cruiser 2.4 = 231 Just a small cross-section that will allow folks to postulate all sorts of "Aha, but......." comments. Have fun with 'em and if you'd like some specifics I'll try to oblige. 
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Replying to: alltorque (Jun 28, 2008 6:07 am) 1. that higher emissions are better than LOWER emissions!!!! (250 is better ( aka LESS than) 204, etc) 2. They also say that burning a min of 2x to higher dirtier fuel (RUG to Pug  30 ppm) is better than burning cleaner fuel (ULSD 15 ppm to ZERO) 2b. They make the dirtier fuel (RUG to PUG 30 ppm) CHEAPER per gal to boot !!! 3. They also say why burn less less (50 mpg) when MORE will do (30 mpg) !!! ( we have been saying this stuff ALL ALONG !!!!! Now we know at least one reason why K-12 US schools impart such wonderful mathematics awareness in the USA general populations.) |
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Replying to: shipo (May 07, 2008 8:36 am) the real issue is that the Jetta is being built in the Pueblo, Mexico factory which means it will be plauged with the same quality problems as the rest of the VWs that come from Mexico there is NO cost ebenfit to buying this hunk of junk 
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Replying to: brakvica (Jun 28, 2008 10:56 am) half of my 4 Un-Clean TDIs (03, 05, 06, 06) were built in mexico and they are awesome with regard to quality. New Beetle had a couple of tough months as dealer searched for a water leak, but that was the only annoying reliability issue. So all those VWs have been reliable, but I have not driven one past 100K yet. |
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Replying to: brakvica (Jun 28, 2008 10:56 am) Today in CA diesel is only 7% higher than regular unleaded. Not sure where you are at. You can check here and see the difference. That makes the VW TDI are real bargain. The TDI gets 25% better hwy mileage than the premium burning gas Sportwagon. With premium about the same as diesel, it is advantage diesel big time. If you have not owned a VW TDI in the last few years you should do yourself a favor and try one. The competition will seem so blah after you do.. I have and want another one.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 28, 2008 12:25 pm) $4.53 for RUG plus 35% = $6.11. Diesel would have to be $6.11 a gallon to make the same value as RUG at $4.53 Gary, why did you send all this heat up here? It's 1:45 PM and 82 degrees outside, I'm dying. My guess it will be close to 90 by 5:00
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 28, 2008 12:48 pm) |
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Replying to: highmiler650 (Jun 27, 2008 4:39 pm) kcram - Pickups Host
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Replying to: kcram (Jun 28, 2008 5:19 pm) I will give you that to a point. I will give you a 50% drop is the average suburb guy buying a full size pick-up. He goes from a F-150 to a Ranger. Let’s put a 2.5L or a 3.0L diesel in a Ranger. I know you can get 35 + MPG out of that. Still plenty of power and good MPG. And it won’t be rocket science either, they are all over the world except…..yep, you guessed right, the USA.
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