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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 19, 2008 1:59 pm) Who would you include in the group that don't believe in science based R&D? Do you think Algaewheel is result of science based R&D or someone looking to create a solution to a problem? |
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Replying to: moparbad (Jun 18, 2008 6:19 pm) The ones that drive a Prius can get 70 mpg. 
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 18, 2008 7:41 pm) Will we have enough natural gas to make diesel? Don't hold your breath. In the Middle East they are using the NG for integrated refinery-petrochemical facilities and oil-fired power plants. They are heading for a shortage. "Gas shortages in the Middle East could also have big implications globally, impacting future regional projects aiming to meet demand elsewhere. " http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Business_Feature/10216795.html Canadian oil sands are continuing to use more and more NG. Our populations continue to grow. More people need more NG for heating and electrical generation. And if they start converting NG to hydrogen there will be even less available. I would not expect a lot of NG to diesel given the current state of the market. "Natural gas consumption will rise more rapidly than the 1.6% annual gain in energy demand for the next 25 years, according to the Energy Information Administration. Expect prices to do the same." http://www.forbes.com/home/2008/06/19/natural-gas-hydrogen-biz-energy-cx_wp_0620- natgas.html |
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Replying to: larsb (Jun 17, 2008 12:04 pm)
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Replying to: scwmcan (Jun 20, 2008 3:13 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 20, 2008 5:51 am) Indeed folks are NARCOTIZED into Zombie like mantras against what you, and others have been saying all along. The % and numbers of gassers cars is literally 99x greater than diesel passenger cars. Logic would have the majority of passenger cars pollution being caused by the 98% of the passenger vehicle fleet burning more consumptive RUG to PUG!!!!! Yet those that don't want others to consider diesel cars to outright anti diesel are almost cult like in their mantra that diesel cars which are app 1% of the passenger vehicle fleet cause the majority of the air pollution. Absolutely and TOTALLY preposterous! Indeed no study has shown that cars like Prius have even made a MEASURABLE effect on the LA air pollution index, let alone a statistically correlated link. Indeed during this time the diesel passenger vehicle fleet has actually gone DOWN 33% !!!!(from less than 3% of the passenger vehicle fleet to 2%) Needless to say the hybrid population has gone UP !!!!! In addition use of bio diesel actually emits less pollution that electric CARS according to the Harvard study cited in a previous post. NON MITIGATED mass transit, trains, ships, airplanes, farming, construction equipment, even unmitigated fire place use, etc which has been "regulated" (aka unregulated) continues unabated.
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Diesels (Still) Equal Savings
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Replying to: moparbad (Jun 20, 2008 8:14 am) The biggest plus is when diesel drops below gas again, and it will, you are really knocking them dead.
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Replying to: moparbad (Jun 20, 2008 8:14 am) 1. Environmentalists have consistently seeked to increase regulations 2. the cost of regulations 3. cost of doing business 4. higher cost of cars 5. advocate higher price per gal (with the REAL and more important price per mile driven) going UP. 6. since Hurricane Katrina the prices have almost gone up exponentially. 7. Indeed the passenger diesel car fleet has gone down 33% and voile, the air pollution has actually gone UP!!! This is of course with the best sales/population of hybrids ever!!! More than ever before D2 is the fuel for at least the next generation if not two generations!! (30-60 years- biblically 40-80 years) 1. less consumption, diesel is 20-40% better than like model RUG to PUG (which is better/worse 50 mpg/29 mpg? 98% of folks will chose the fuel source that gets 29 mpg. MORE IS better!?) 2. biodiesel has less emissions than electric cars, the acknowledge "holy grail" of environmental correctness 3. another is a diesel engine CAN/SHOULD be a portal to use of alternative fuel: biodiesel to name one, a. Bio diesel is "renewable" b. can be adapted from long standing waste streams (lists too long, capable making ones eyes glass over) c.. can be adapted to future waste streams d.. actually consumes C02 and yields oxygen on the production side Might be hosts of good reasons why they are trying to make it economically not viable, limit to outright banning its use.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 20, 2008 8:46 am) |
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