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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 18, 2008 9:12 pm) It will be interesting to see what % of the 2009 production years #'s will be diesels. Historically, ( I have read in a few places) the 2003 MY VW diesels were  4% of 225,000 produced ( app 9,000). Some segments to all of MY 2009 would appear to have significant challenges, given the state of the current economic situation. My take are the sub compact. compact, med sized segments (Toyota Camry comes to mind) should do the best. PU/Trucks, SUV's, LARGE cars would be examples of segments that will probably have tough rows to hoe. |
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 18, 2008 9:12 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 19, 2008 6:55 am) If they go the “premium” route, they may not get my money as I don’t play when it is MSRP +. I also believe that diesel buyers are a small number and those on the fence only looking at pump prices are going to baulk at buying if diesel $0.50 more a gallon than RUG.
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 19, 2008 7:39 am) I hear you about the MSRP + pricing . It was indeed a factor in not getting the 2004 Prius. I probably would NOT have gotten the 2003 TDI if they demanded MSRP + pricing. As for your last remark, it is indeed true. While I have NOT seen the new 2009 MY, all indicators point to the VW diesels (Jetta specifically) to have a host of improvements over say the 2003 MY Jetta TDI. To make a long story short, I am excited about its debut. 1. They have kept the price the same (2003 MY) (sans the march of real inflation 3% per year. ( SO a 4k rise 667 per year) 2. redesigned the engine (aka" clean diesel" ) even as if the older design was clean 3. redesigned the rest of the vehicle 3. power increase is MONSTER ( 38%- 250 # ft vs 155# ft torque) 4. It is more BMW like, 5. quality is better, 6. indications by way of MY's 2003,2004, 2005,2006,2007,2008, the reliability has gotten better. JD Powers, etc.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 19, 2008 7:59 am)
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Replying to: altair4 (Jun 19, 2008 9:41 am) I will probably do what you will do and WAIT, I backed into one of the best MY's, the 2003. But I didn't so much wait as decided to get the 2003 in 2003, which HAPPENED/S to be one of VW's better efforts. I only tell folks who really seem curious what my VW experiences are, otherwise mumm's the word. I do get the occasional STOP you are putting DIESEL in your tank routine and even had it jerked out of my hands once. |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 18, 2008 8:00 pm) http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/newsitem.asp?ID=29901 It is too bad a certain group of people don't believe in science based R&D. We would be a lot further along had the scientists been given the funding.
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 19, 2008 1:59 pm) Folks can goggle this but 30,000 gal per "acre" of hydroponic would be the goal. Benchmark is currently at 15,000 gals per "acre" of hydroponic. |
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 19, 2008 1:59 pm) Who would you include in the group that don't believe in science based R&D? Do you think Algaewheel is result of science based R&D or someone looking to create a solution to a problem? |
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Replying to: moparbad (Jun 18, 2008 6:19 pm) The ones that drive a Prius can get 70 mpg. 
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