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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 18, 2008 5:59 pm)  EPA folks are not getting 70 mpg.
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"Synthetic crude has some distinct advantages; essentially zero residue, and low sulphur and nitrogen. However, severe thermally based primary upgrading (coking) produces a highly aromatic crude, with poor quality distillates - jet and diesel fuel components - and gas oils which must be converted in the refinery to lighter gasoline and distillates." In the graph on page 42 they say that "poor quality distillates limit many refineries to 10% or less of crude diet". Source - OIL SANDS TECHNOLOGY ROADMAP: UNLOCKING THE POTENTIAL As time goes on we will be relying more and more on the Canadian oil sands and less on Mexican conventional oil. The information in the report suggests that oil sands are not a great feedstock for distillates (diesel or jet fuel).
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 18, 2008 6:25 pm) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 18, 2008 7:41 pm) On the algae, it is almost: where won't algae grow? Eats C02 and produces oxygen (among other compounds) For sure, certain strains do better in different places, circumstances, yields, climates, etc.,etc. The hydroponic algae growth for D2 shows huge yield potential. If anything needs R & D, this comes pretty close to a high priority.
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Replying to: ppellico (Jun 18, 2008 6:05 pm) I have seen August in some articles and a VW sale man I talked with said September or October. So, when are they going to get here? Not soon enough.
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 18, 2008 9:12 pm) It will be interesting to see what % of the 2009 production years #'s will be diesels. Historically, ( I have read in a few places) the 2003 MY VW diesels were  4% of 225,000 produced ( app 9,000). Some segments to all of MY 2009 would appear to have significant challenges, given the state of the current economic situation. My take are the sub compact. compact, med sized segments (Toyota Camry comes to mind) should do the best. PU/Trucks, SUV's, LARGE cars would be examples of segments that will probably have tough rows to hoe. |
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 18, 2008 9:12 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 19, 2008 6:55 am) If they go the “premium” route, they may not get my money as I don’t play when it is MSRP +. I also believe that diesel buyers are a small number and those on the fence only looking at pump prices are going to baulk at buying if diesel $0.50 more a gallon than RUG.
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 19, 2008 7:39 am) I hear you about the MSRP + pricing . It was indeed a factor in not getting the 2004 Prius. I probably would NOT have gotten the 2003 TDI if they demanded MSRP + pricing. As for your last remark, it is indeed true. While I have NOT seen the new 2009 MY, all indicators point to the VW diesels (Jetta specifically) to have a host of improvements over say the 2003 MY Jetta TDI. To make a long story short, I am excited about its debut. 1. They have kept the price the same (2003 MY) (sans the march of real inflation 3% per year. ( SO a 4k rise 667 per year) 2. redesigned the engine (aka" clean diesel" ) even as if the older design was clean 3. redesigned the rest of the vehicle 3. power increase is MONSTER ( 38%- 250 # ft vs 155# ft torque) 4. It is more BMW like, 5. quality is better, 6. indications by way of MY's 2003,2004, 2005,2006,2007,2008, the reliability has gotten better. JD Powers, etc.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 19, 2008 7:59 am)
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