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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 17, 2008 5:46 am) No, No & No.  Europe taxed the you know what out of fuel 15 years ago. That drove people to small cars. We would be using 50% less fuel if Congress had done the same here. (U.S. Dollars per Gallon) Source EIA Date Belgium France Germany Italy Netherlands UK US 1/1/96 3.95 3.93 4.07 3.89 4.32 3.20 1.27 1/8/96 3.93 3.92 4.03 3.94 4.32 3.24 1.28 1/15/96 3.92 3.90 4.00 3.95 4.29 3.25 1.29 You seem to want Government to step in when it favors diesel, but not E85. I would rather all fuels be treated equal. The current hodge podge is well....... a hodge podge. We are all well aware of your dislike of EPA. One thing you should understand is that EPA is the product of industry, environmentalists, congress and most of all us. We are the ones that tell them to go regulate, but for some reason everyone thinks it is always the other guy that is the problem, never us. In a previous job I spent many hours working with EPA regional folks. They have some great people and some not so great people working for them. The same is true for the industry people I dealt with. The next time you take a dump, keep in mind that EPA regulations and money help to make sure you don't end up with that e-coli in your drinking water. That is where a lot of the money is going. And it is money well spent.  It is our job to cut the use of fossil fuels not EPA.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 17, 2008 3:36 pm) Your mission, ruking1, should you decide to accept it, is to go to these Honda web sites....... As usual, should you or any member of your I.M. Force be captured or killed, the secretary will disavow any knowledge of your existence. This message will self-destruct in five seconds. Good luck, ruking1.
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 17, 2008 5:03 pm) |
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 17, 2008 4:54 pm) I would love to. I am not going to drive a Yugo to do it. The EPA would be well advised to making sure our drinking water is safe. Oh, I remember it was the EPA that mandated MTBE that is polluting our drinking water. And it is the EPA that should make sure our diesel is not loaded with unnecessary pollution causing ingredients. It is not their place to say you over there can use crappy diesel in a tractor or train or ship, but you little schmuck cannot drive a Beetle TDI in California. Why because the big bad CARB is a bigger dog than the EPA and we stick our tail between our legs when they bark. The little civil servants that go to work every day at the EPA and try to clean the air and water, I have no gripe with. It is probably the ones that just quit because they did not get their way. You are beating your head against the same wall that Larsb beats all day at work. Once I looked that Ford Ranger diesel over in Prudhoe Bay I was bit with the diesel bug. I baby my POC Ford Ranger V6 to get 16 MPG. They averaged 45 MPG with that truck loaded with all their gear. They were taking their time and would spend a couple months getting back home to Brazil. All the time leaving me with the burden of trying to find a small PU truck that I could get 45 MPG with. Every country in the World has them except the USA. And I am happy to blame the EPA, CARB and our lame Congress for that injustice. In the mean time I will drive my Sequoia that gets 15 MPG and think all the time I am being cheated out of money by my government, that is supposed to be on our side. Maybe Michelle Obama is right in not being proud of her country. Cheating the little guy and passing the money onto big oil and big agriculture. |
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 17, 2008 4:54 pm) .."to know the true high mileage cars are literally banned from entry."... Hard to drive a 70 mpg car when 70 mpg cars are banned from the US market. |
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Replying to: larsb (Jun 17, 2008 2:45 pm) Actually, the Olds diesel has been mentioned a few times. #36 - March, 2005 #3000 - June, 2007 --- Your message.  #5809 - May, 2008 --- my post.
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 18, 2008 2:17 am) In 1985 Oldsmobile built the Cutlass Wagon with a 6 cylinder 4.3L diesel. It had a 3 speed auto and got 35 MPG on the highway. That same year Honda Accord with a 4 cylinder gas engine could only squeak out a lousy 30 MPG. If memory serves me that Cutlass wagon was about twice the size of the Accord. Was the Olds diesel smelly. I am sure it was. If you had it today here in CA running on ULSD it would not smell as bad as a brand new gasser. I think the blame needs to be laid where it belongs in regards to diesel cars past and present. That same Olds Cutlass Wagon with the 3L gas engine and 3 speed would give you a whopping 22 MPG out on the highway. Or 38% less mileage. So tell me how far we have advanced in the last 23 years. How many vehicles today the size of the Olds Cutlass wagon will give you 35 MPG on the highway? |
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Replying to: kcram (Jun 17, 2008 2:32 pm) This board goes much quicker if one skips the posts that say the same thing over and over and over and. . . Then I get to read posts like yours, which would not have been the case if I'd just taken this board off my watch list. Thanks again.
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Jun 18, 2008 5:35 am) |
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