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Yep by merc1
Mar 09, 2005 (10:44 pm)
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Yeah the SLK320 CDI outperforms the petrol (love that word) SLK350 and the SL400 CDI outperforms the petrol SL500, in both speed and fuel economy.
 
My only worry about a a diesel droptop is the noise factor.
 
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Diesels and fine wine? by moparbad
Mar 10, 2005 (9:18 am)
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http://www.news-gazette.com/localnews/story.cfm?Number=17827
 
Not everyone likes diesel," said Peter Alexander, mechanic and owner of Peter B.'s, a repair shop in Urbana.
   Because diesels were fraught with problems back in the '70s and '80s, "it took a real special person to love a diesel," he said.
   According to Alexander, diesel owners tend to be mechanical and understand how diesels work. They like to drink fine wine, but they're also economical. They watch their money. They're not in any hurry.
   "With diesel, everything is slower," Alexander said.

 
Liberty diesel is quicker than Liberty gas V6, Mercedes CDI is quicker than Mercedes gas, every thing is NOT slower with diesel!
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Liberty Diesel in the news by moparbad
Mar 10, 2005 (9:20 am)
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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05063/466021.stm
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Re: Diesels and fine wine? [moparbad] by merc1
Mar 11, 2005 (12:31 am)
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Replying to: moparbad (Mar 10, 2005 9:18 am)

That underlines the main problem with diesel, perception. Mercedes has some truly fast diesels in Europe as does BMW, Audi and VW, but they'll never sell in good numbers here because before clean diesel can be had in order sell them here, hybrids have captured the spotlight.
 
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Re: Diesels and fine wine? [merc1] by pusterracing
Mar 11, 2005 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Mar 11, 2005 12:31 am)

hybrids have captured the spotlight.
 
I believe the is both positive and negative and we will see a rise in the purchase of diesels and numbers of diesels being offered. When I purchased both of my diesel passenger cars in the past year I looked into the hybrid alternatives for both of them (when I purchased my diesel truck, there were no hybrid alternatives for a 1-ton crewcab with diesel).
 
Here is the problem I ran into....I purchased an '04 Jetta GLS TDI in April. I also researched and drove the Civic HCH and the Prius. For the Civic, I could buy an LX, with a few incentives for about $15.5K, but the Hybrid was $20.5K, a $5000 increase for the hybrid technology. The Prius, OTOH, was $25K and had a 6-9 month waitlist and in both hybrid cases dealers were not coming off of MSRP and one was actually trying to charge more, mouch more. I lookes at the TDI, got it for less than either Hybrid and get ALMOST the same real world fuel economy. AND the Jetta, IMHO, is much better appointed than the Civic. Let's face it, a Civic is still a Civic, even with Hybrid Drivetrain.
 
Fast forward to Feb '05, it was time to purchase another vehicle, so I looked at the Passat GLS TDI, the Accord-Hybrid, and the E320CDI. The Accord, I could purchase a regular gas Accord for ~$27K, or I could get the Hybrid for $33K and get roughly 7mpg better fuel economy, and all the worries about battery life, new techonology, etc. That's ~$6K premium, just to appear to be green. Not worth it. So I ruled it out, and while the MB was extremely nice, at the end of the day, a car is just a car, and I didn't see enough bells and whistles to justify paying and extra $30K for a car. That money would be much better spent or invested elsewhere. I went with the Passat and have absolutely no regrets.
 
Hopefully, with all of the media attention and the growing numbers of vehicles on the road, the diesel cars are starting to shake some of the reputation they have garnered in the past.
 
'03 Ford F350 CrewCab KingRanch 6.0L Powerstroke
'04 VW Jetta GLS TDI
'05 VW Passat GLS TDI
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Re: Where are the diesels? [ranger2001xlt] by chrisducati
Mar 13, 2005 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: ranger2001xlt (Feb 16, 2005 9:16 pm)

I too looked at a (ten passenger) Sprinter. If it were not for the size of it I think I would have bought it. You can walk back standing up to all the seats. The problem came when thinking of parking and such. Once the public is aware of how much power and how dependable new diesels are I think it will catch on. The whole Oldsmobile thing is still in a lot of peoples minds for reliability. Others remember the VW Rabbits and how much vibration was passed into the passenger area. We crossed the Rockys in a Dasher Diesel once... just once.
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Ultimate diesel cruiser by gagrice
Mar 13, 2005 (12:16 pm)
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I am looking into the diesel Sprinter as well. This one has caught my eye and maybe my wallet. All this and 22 MPG, what's not to like?
 
http://www.creativemobileinteriors.com/sections/projects/sprinter_2.asp
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Re: Ultimate diesel cruiser [gagrice] by chrisducati
Mar 13, 2005 (2:45 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 13, 2005 12:16 pm)

WOW...now that is a conversion van! I would love that but...That would be way out of my price range. I was looking at the Dodge for about 28-30grand area
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Re: Ultimate diesel cruiser [chrisducati] by gagrice
Mar 13, 2005 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: chrisducati (Mar 13, 2005 2:45 pm)

I don't think I can justify that one either. You can get Sprinters that are fully ready for travel for $65k and up. That one being as high up as I have found. They drive real nice and from all indications and the people I have talked to, 22 mpg is what they are getting. If you just need a station wagon those are going in your above price range. They have a good warranty on the drive train. My wife really likes them so I imagine one is in our future. This site has several good links all dealing with Sprinters here and abroad.
 
http://www.whnet.com/4x4/sprinter.html
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Re: Diesels and fine wine? [pusterracing] by merc1
Mar 14, 2005 (5:37 am)
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Replying to: pusterracing (Mar 11, 2005 6:46 am)

As always it is very interesting to read how a person reasons when purchasing a new car. I'm sure for the American and especially the German makes the cleaner diesel can't get here fast enough.
 
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