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Replying to: winter2 (Apr 14, 2007 11:57 am) Would you have a URL for an online version? Imagine if monies used for pork were spent on making our country energy independent, how wonderful that would be. Don't even get me started. Somehow I don't see how we will ever get there without a revolution in mentality and without throwing all the whor^H^H^H^Hbums out. |
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Replying to: winter2 (Apr 14, 2007 11:57 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 14, 2007 11:41 am) Veted source please.
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Replying to: hypnosis44 (Apr 14, 2007 12:56 pm)
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Replying to: bristol2 (Apr 06, 2007 7:34 am) I am wondering what scientific or environmental qualifications a panel of 44 auto journalists might have that gives the award any significant meaning. I think a similar panel gave the 1960 Corvair an award for being the most inovative. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 14, 2007 1:12 pm)
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Replying to: blufz1 (Apr 14, 2007 12:54 pm) Apparently terrorism is a valid subject for this site as it has been mentioned so many times by so many posters. As we speak there are demonstration in Mexico against the rising price of corn meal. American farmers are planting more "Bio corn" and less food corn because the price is better and likely to be more predictable, and the crops are easier to grow. Note that currently it is used primarily to produce ethanol for gas vehicles. Other types of crops could be substituted, but any reliance on crop land for fuel means less crop land available for food production, however marginal. With 16,000 children in the world starving to death everyday (Recent UN estimate) do any of us begin to feel like terrorists in our reliance on any automobile that depends on agriculture to sustain itself? Doesn't it seem that at some point severe legal restrictions will be placed on the automobile including diesel, and the unmentionable other car words? As for making US farmers rich through framing for bio fuels: the vast majority of farming is done by US corporations, not US farmers.
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Question for the HOST: Will a discussion of Mercedes' tentative plans for a BLUETEC/"Unamable" S-Class be allowed here, or is it off topic?
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 14, 2007 11:41 am) I have been unable to verify the 42 vs 24 numbers. But for discussions sake, I wonder if an analysis of the comparitive size and weight of the vehicles might indicate that the European vehicle fleet is on average newer, smaller, and lighter than the American fleet and that that contributes very significantly to increased average fuel economy?
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Replying to: hypnosis44 (Apr 14, 2007 2:58 pm) kcram - Pickups Host
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