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Re: Diesel going the wrong way........ [larsb] by ruking1
Apr 10, 2007 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Apr 10, 2007 11:04 am)

Just did this yesterday corner store:
 
3.22 unleaded regular
 
3.09 #2 ULSD
 
I also probably should add at 39 mpg and at 49 mpg the diesel cost per mile driven is 23.6% cheaper than its gasser mate.
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Re: Diesel going the wrong way........ [ruking1] by larsb
Apr 10, 2007 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Apr 10, 2007 11:12 am)

Phoenix:
 
Diesel $2.79 cheapest
Reg Unleaded $2.76 cheapest
 
From "This Week In Petroleum"
 
Gasoline and Diesel Prices Both Up Significantly
 
Gasoline prices saw another significant increase for the week of April 2, 2007, jumping 9.7 cents to 270.7 cents per gallon. This is the ninth consecutive week of increases; prices are now 11.9 cents per gallon higher than at this time last year. All regions reported higher prices. East Coast prices were up 9.6 cents to 267.1 cents per gallon, while Midwest prices rose 9.6 cents to 261.4 cents per gallon. The Gulf Coast saw the largest regional increase, with prices up 12.3 cents to 256.5 cents per gallon. In the Rocky Mountains, prices increased 8.1 cents to 261.9 cents per gallon. West Coast prices were up 8.0 cents to 309.6 cents per gallon, with the average price for regular grade in California up 7.6 cents to 322.8 cents per gallon, 48.5 cents per gallon above last year's price.
 
Retail diesel prices also increased this week, rising 11.4 cents to 279.0 cents per gallon. Prices are now 17.3 cents per gallon higher than at this time last year. All regions reported price increases. East Coast prices rose 10.7 cents to 276.4 cents per gallon. The Midwest saw the largest jump, with prices up 12.5 cents to 278.0 cents per gallon. The Gulf Coast saw an increase of 12.3 cents to 276.6 cents per gallon and Rocky Mountain prices were up 10.4 cents to 288.4 cents per gallon. Prices on the West Coast saw an increase of 8.2 cents to 288.5 cents per gallon. California prices rose 7.0 cents to 293.9 cents per gallon, and are 12.7 cents per gallon higher than at this time last year.
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Re: Diesel going the wrong way........ [larsb] by ruking1
Apr 10, 2007 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Apr 10, 2007 12:28 pm)

Phoenix:
  
Diesel $2.79 cheapest
Reg Unleaded $2.76 cheapest
 
Might be a dumb question, but is that 2.79 #2 diesel, ULSD?
 
Sure would be neat to pay .30 cents less per gal.
 
Using the 39/49 mpg's, diesel in your neck of the woods is 19.5% cheaper
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Re: Diesel going the wrong way........ [larsb] by gagrice
Apr 10, 2007 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Apr 10, 2007 12:28 pm)

For the sake of discussion we should compare one or more of the cars that are offered with both diesel and gas engines. THe VW Jetta is a good example. In the TDI manual version the new stated MPG is 33 MPG combined. The 5 cylinder 2.5 liter manual gas version is rated on the new EPA scale at 22 MPG. That is a full 33% better mileage. Looking at the price of fuel gas will have to be 1/3rd less before it is a break even for the guy in the gas Jetta. I have not seen diesel 1/3rd more than gas ever. In fact it is only since additional taxes were added to diesel that it costs more than gas part of the year.
 
I just bought 5 gallons of ULSD for my tractor at $2.91 per gallon. That same ARCO was selling unleaded for $3.22 per gallon. I could save a few cents by using red dye diesel. I am trying to do my part. Maybe I will get some carbon credits.
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Re: Diesel going the wrong way........ [gagrice] by ruking1
Apr 10, 2007 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 10, 2007 6:02 pm)

Well, for sure my comparison WAS apples to oranges. I happen to know the 2003 1.8T does not get near 31 mpg over all. So even if I cut it some slack at 29 mpg, given AZ prices. ..."Phoenix:
   
Diesel $2.79 cheapest
Reg Unleaded $2.76 cheapest
  
Might be a dumb question, but is that 2.79 #2 diesel, ULSD?
  
Sure would be neat to pay .30 cents less per gal.
  
Using the 39/49 mpg's, diesel in your neck of the woods is 19.5% cheaper "...
 
For diesel, 40% cheaper per mile driven.
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Re: Diesel going the wrong way........ [ruking1] by blufz1
Apr 10, 2007 (8:14 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Apr 10, 2007 7:31 pm)

It's not just the economy of diesels. There are other reasons to own a diesel. They probably will last longer than a gasser and their lower torque peak is better for towing and highway cruising.

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